DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[CDF47]

Seems like a shit design if "overpopulation" is a thing that can happen.  That's a limit of haphazard natural systems, not god magic systems.  Maybe we can get Evs meat fairy to help your bumbling god out?

On an earth with a finite size and death and life being a reality, over population is inevitable.  People die every 13 seconds in this country and new people are born every 8 seconds so over population is inevitable and would be expected.  There are other potential ways that over population can be controlled.

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95 % of the universe, at this point is unknown. You can say nothing about it.
95 % of it is Dark Energy and Dark matter. Until they are understood, nothing can be said about this universe, in general.

Sorry CDF, but it is not a weak argument. It's a fact. They know very little about the entire universe, and in fact know NOTHING about 95 % of it, and how it works.
"All of science" doesn't attempt to say things (anything) about the entire universe. It says things about very limited sets of things it has studied, knows about and has observed.
95 % of the universe it knows nothing about, and in fact doesn't even try to talk about.

I know the vast majority of space is made up of dark matter and dark energy but that is not to say science can not speak intelligently about what it does know, like the super-symmetry of the universe and the finely-tuned constants.

[The Grand Nudger]

Inevitable.....?  Well shit, yet another design flaw that "god" just can't fix.  Ev begs to differ.  The meat fairy can make as many donuts as it likes.

Gotta say, I'm on team Meat Fairy here, it's nowhere near as much of an impotent fuckup.

[CDF47]

The story is truth and is consistent.  OT is more about the wrath of the Lord.  NT is more about the love and forgiveness of the Lord.

That was, until Christians cooked up hell. Schizophrenic god, ya got there.

Well, the OT does speak of hell (https://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/tbhell.html).  Now, the Bible also states that hell and death will be destroyed in the lake of fire.  Whether this puts an end to all suffering is up for debate.  I lean toward thinking eternal conscious torment is the case for some or all of those that go to hell.

[The Grand Nudger]

Lelz, no it doesn't.  You believe in hell..and because you depend on the borrowed ladder of someone else's religion..operating on the assumption that whatever might be written on the wall of a cave is therefore more true...you need to tell yourself that it does.

You believe in hell..because a bunch of pagans believed in it. They even gave it the name you use for it....and it's the name of a goddess, lol.

[CDF47]

I understood it to be a good translation.  I mainly stick to the KJV but I will also read and reference the NASB and the ESV.

Jesus, every one of those sucks balls.  NIV dude, get with the program.  

I form the light and create darkness,
    I bring prosperity and create disaster;
    I, the Lord, do all these things.

...consider the irony of your having had to come to an atheist forum to get good babble advice.

So...still not willing to witness to a wayward soul, are we?

No, I understand the KJV to be the best English Bible as well as the NASB and possibly the ESV.  Not as much the NIV.

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Lelz, no it doesn't.  You believe in hell..and because you depend on the borrowed ladder of someone else's religion..operating on the assumption that whatever might be written on the wall of a cave is therefore more true...you need to tell yourself that it does.

You believe in hell..because a bunch of pagans believed in it.  They even gave it the name you use for it....and it's the name of a goddess, lol.

No, my belief comes from its use in the Bible.

[The Grand Nudger]

Jesus, every one of those sucks balls.  NIV dude, get with the program.  

...consider the irony of your having had to come to an atheist forum to get good babble advice.

So...still not willing to witness to a wayward soul, are we?

No, I understand the KJV to be the best English Bible as well as the NASB and possibly the ESV.  Not as much the NIV.

Your understanding is notably deficient.  

Lelz, no it doesn't.  You believe in hell..and because you depend on the borrowed ladder of someone else's religion..operating on the assumption that whatever might be written on the wall of a cave is therefore more true...you need to tell yourself that it does.

You believe in hell..because a bunch of pagans believed in it.  They even gave it the name you use for it....and it's the name of a goddess, lol.

No, my belief comes from its use in the Bible.

Sure it does.

[CDF47]

No, I understand the KJV to be the best English Bible as well as the NASB and possibly the ESV.  Not as much the NIV.

Your understanding is notably deficient.  

No, my belief comes from its use in the Bible.

Sure it does.

No, the NIV removed some verses but then puts them in footnotes.  So what happens if you don't have the footnotes version like some electronic copies may be.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and? The versions you're reading memory holed shit without footnotes, invented other shit whole cloth, and interpreted whatever remained for no reason other than to be consistent with one cult or another. You read garbage magic books..and have beliefs that don't come from magic book in the first place.

The result of this is that you find yourself here, being ridiculed as a biblical simpleton by a filthy atheist who knows more about your silly god than you do...with some meat fairy nutter claiming you believe the same stupid shit she does.

Which, ofc, isn't true. You believe in entirely different stupid shit, all your own!

[Angrboda]

You know, if all you god botherers could come up with a story that was both consistent and compelling, we wouldn't be laughing so hard.  But when disparate god botherers who would just as soon spit on each other as look at them come together simply because doing so increases your apparent numbers you simply demonstrate what immoral hypocrites you are, making bedfellows with anyone so long as it serves your self-interest to do so, and just as quickly abandoning such solidarity when it is not.  And then, we laugh all the harder.

So what if he doesn't believe in multiverses? Every individual on earth has their own personal beliefs based on what makes the most sense to them. But as believers in God, and in a soul that exists separtely from the body, and in reward/redemption and eternal life, we agree on the most important stuff and we know that really pisses you off.

He doesn't believe in the same things that you do, was my point. And his support of you and you of he is just shamelessly engaging in a marriage of convenience. His comments about the multiverse had nothing to do with it and were just a springboard to talk about your collective lack of ethics and principles. And how your trumpeting your moral superiority otherwise simply makes us laugh at how hypocritical and little invested in the truth of your beliefs you actually are.

[CDF47]

-and?  The versions you're reading memory holed shit without footnotes, and interpreted whatever remained for no reason other than to be consistent with one cult or another.

And, my electronic version doesn't have the footnotes so I am left with a version missing key Bible verses.  That's a problem for the NIV.  I edited my post above after you responded so I re-added the comment here.