DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Anomalocaris]

I am beginning to think everena is not a sock for CDF. What are the odds that even CDF can possibly pretend to be that dumb?

[Paleophyte]

This entire universe and everything in it is evidence of higher intelligence.

Nope, sorry, it's just evidence of the universe. It's an argument for a higher intelligence, though a poor one.

The complex code of DNA could not have possibly created itself.

Seeing as how you don't know the route by which life arose you can't very well make this statement.

It is mathematically impossible for even one protein to just form by chance without intelligence.

Your math is shoddy and your reasoning worse. Start with a simple self-replicator and work your way up to proteins.

It is statistically impossible for all the functions of the human body to have evolved without intelligence.

Something as stupid as us had to be designed? Sorry, but this is simply an argument from personal incredulity. You don't know what the odds are for a single function because you haven't bothered to trace the evolutionary pathways.

And food is evidence of God. Why do we have food on this planet for every fish, bird, insect, ... food for the approx 7.8 million different species of conscious life? Something like food being here, and being delicious and providing energy and nutrients cannot just be written off to chance or luck.

Everything eating everything else is evidence of a deity?!? Sounds like your god has some serious karma to work off! That bastard's coming back as a catepillar for the next billion reincarnations just for making the Ichneumonoid wasps. Lovely little creatures that paralyze their prey and lay their eggs inside so the larvae can eat their host alive. You are about the only Creationist that I've ever heard argue predation and parasitism in favour of your deity.

Additionally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live?

Evolution. Seriously, this one's a no-brainer. Anything without a sex drive or will to live is damned unlikely to pass on those genes.

What about consciousness and intelligence? How could something conscious and intelligent ever possibly emerge from something that was not conscious or intelligent?

Emergent behaviours are observed throughout nature. Make a brain complex enough and self-awareness emerges. It's just a pattern recognition machine that's learned to recognize itself.

Also, we have discovered approx 200 billion different galaxies. Do you really think humans are the highest form of intelligence in 200 billion galaxies? Add all that to a planet with an enormous amount of useful materials and resources, the sun, the moon, water, the placement of the planet.. and it becomes very evident that higher intelligence exists.

Higher intelligence does not equal a Deity or Creator.

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So repeating the same assertions and fallacies 

And you cannot prove me wrong about a single one of them

Well not when you're all

[Everena]

And you cannot prove me wrong about a single one of them

You've already been proven wrong; yet you refuse to acknowledge or accept it.

Not even one time have I been proven even a little bit wrong. Keep deluding yourself though.

[Silver]

Not even one time have I been proven even a little bit wrong. Keep deluding yourself though.

Lie to yourself all you want; it doesn't alter the truth except in your deluded mind.

[Anomalocaris]

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You've already been proven wrong; yet you refuse to acknowledge or accept it.

Not even one time have I been proven even a little bit wrong. Keep deluding yourself though.

Ah, yes.  Ms dumb but perfect is being perfect again. Woe no doubt betide, at least in her mind, those who see her perfection for what it actually is.

[Everena]

This entire universe and everything in it is evidence of higher intelligence.

Nope, sorry, it's just evidence of the universe. It's an argument for a higher intelligence, though a poor one.
Everena: Nope, sorry is very obviously evidence of higher intelligence.

The complex code of DNA could not have possibly created itself.

Seeing as how you don't know the route by which life arose you can't very well make this statement.

Everena: No matter what route, higher intelligence was necessary for it to ever even come to be.

It is mathematically impossible for even one protein to just form by chance without intelligence.

Your math is shoddy and your reasoning worse. Start with a simple self-replicator and work your way up to proteins.

Everena: It is not my math and it is mathematically proven to be true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_KEVaCyaA

It is statistically impossible for all the functions of the human body to have evolved without intelligence.

Something as stupid as us had to be designed?

Everena: The flesh part yes. And not all of us are stupid.

Sorry, but this is simply an argument from personal incredulity. You don't know what the odds are for a single function because you haven't bothered to trace the evolutionary pathways.

Everena: Statistically proven per George Gallup, the most famous statistician to have ever lived. https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367

And food is evidence of God. Why do we have food on this planet for every fish, bird, insect, ... food for the approx 7.8 million different species of conscious life? Something like food being here, and being delicious and providing energy and nutrients cannot just be written off to chance or luck.

Everything eating everything else is evidence of a deity?!?

Everena: Food being available all over this planet to feed 7.8 million different species of conscious life sure is proof. And why would other organisms even taste good to us? And why salt and all the other flavorful herbs? And sugar? Etc etc etc. Not to mention alcohol and medicines.

Sounds like your god has some serious karma to work off! That bastard's coming back as a catepillar for the next billion reincarnations just for making the Ichneumonoid wasps. Lovely little creatures that paralyze their prey and lay their eggs inside so the larvae can eat their host alive.

Everena: Not everyone is nice. Learn to live with it.

You are about the only Creationist that I've ever heard argue predation and parasitism in favour of your deity.

EverenaL I guess that makes me super special then. 

Additionally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live?

Evolution. Seriously, this one's a no-brainer. Anything without a sex drive or will to live is damned unlikely to pass on those genes.
Everena: Why would we have a sex drive or will to live at all though? How would nothingness care if our species survived or not?

What about consciousness and intelligence? How could something conscious and intelligent ever possibly emerge from something that was not conscious or intelligent?

Emergent behaviours are observed throughout nature.

Make a brain complex enough and self-awareness emerges.

Everena: Not proven that our consciuosness is even coming from our brain. Our brain may just be a receiver of consciousness.
The paramecium appears conscious and has no brain.

It's just a pattern recognition machine that's learned to recognize itself.

Everena: So you think you are just a robot? Machines don't have emotions, intelligence, or a sex drive, or a will to live,....etc etc

Also, we have discovered approx 200 billion different galaxies. Do you really think humans are the highest form of intelligence in 200 billion galaxies? Add all that to a planet with an enormous amount of useful materials and resources, the sun, the moon, water, the placement of the planet.. and it becomes very evident that higher intelligence exists.

Higher intelligence does not equal a Deity or Creator.

Everena: it sure does. If there is higher intelligence than humans, that higher intelligence created this universe.

And you cannot prove me wrong about a single one of them

Well not when you're all

Everena: You are simply wrong. Brainwashed to an extreme. I know God exists beyond any and all doubt.

[Silver]

Everena: You are simply wrong. Brainwashed to an extreme. I know God exists beyond any and all doubt.

You keep saying that, yet you're still incapable of proving god's existence.

[Anomalocaris]

Nope, sorry, it's just evidence of the universe. It's an argument for a higher intelligence, though a poor one.
Everena: Nope, sorry is very obviously evidence of higher intelligence.

Seeing as how you don't know the route by which life arose you can't very well make this statement.

Everena: No matter what route, higher intelligence was necessary for it to ever even come to be.

Your math is shoddy and your reasoning worse. Start with a simple self-replicator and work your way up to proteins.

Everena: It is not my math and it is mathematically proven to be true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_KEVaCyaA
Something as stupid as us had to be designed?

Everena: The flesh part yes. And not all of us are stupid.

Sorry, but this is simply an argument from personal incredulity. You don't know what the odds are for a single function because you haven't bothered to trace the evolutionary pathways.

Everena: Statistically proven per George Gallup, the most famous statistician to have ever lived. https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367


Everything eating everything else is evidence of a deity?!?

Everena: Food being available all over this planet to feed 7.8 million different species of conscious life sure is proof. And why would other organisms even taste good to us? And why salt and all the other flavorful herbs? And sugar? Etc etc etc. Not to mention alcohol and medicines.

Sounds like your god has some serious karma to work off! That bastard's coming back as a catepillar for the next billion reincarnations just for making the Ichneumonoid wasps. Lovely little creatures that paralyze their prey and lay their eggs inside so the larvae can eat their host alive.

Everena: Not everyone is nice. Learn to live with it.

You are about the only Creationist that I've ever heard argue predation and parasitism in favour of your deity.

EverenaL I guess that makes me super special then. 


Evolution. Seriously, this one's a no-brainer. Anything without a sex drive or will to live is damned unlikely to pass on those genes.
Everena: Why would we have a sex drive or will to live at all though? How would nothingness care if our species survived or not?


Emergent behaviours are observed throughout nature.

Make a brain complex enough and self-awareness emerges.

Everena: Not proven that our consciuosness is even coming from our brain. Our brain may just be a receiver of consciousness.
The paramecium appears conscious and has no brain.

It's just a pattern recognition machine that's learned to recognize itself.

Everena: So you think you are just a robot? Machines don't have emotions, intelligence, or a sex drive, or a will to live,....etc etc


Higher intelligence does not equal a Deity or Creator.

Everena: it sure does. If there is higher intelligence than humans, that higher intelligence created this universe.



Well not when you're all

Everena: You are simply wrong. Brainwashed to an extreme. I know God exists beyond any and all doubt.

And because the “I” is everena, therefore what in others would be embarrassing idiocy should be treated instead as inspired wisdom.   Right.

The dumber than monkey is still howling.

[Ravenshire]

So repeating the same assertions and fallacies 

And you cannot prove me wrong about a single one of them

No one here is under any obligation to prove your assertions wrong. It's up to you to support them. They're your claims, the burden lies with you. Since you wish to assert without evidence, don't be surprised when we dismiss without consideration.

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I am beginning to think everena is not a sock for CDF.  What are the odds that even CDF can possibly pretend to be that dumb?

Who says it's pretend in either case?!?

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We will never know for sure here, but I think we will have an additional clue.

Everena: You are simply wrong. Brainwashed to an extreme. I know God exists beyond any and all doubt.

For fuck's sake, would you make up your fucking mind?!?

[Amarok]

Everena: You are simply wrong. Brainwashed to an extreme. I know God exists beyond any and all doubt.

We will never know for sure here, but I think we will have an additional clue.