DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Everena]

Even though you have NO credentials or expertise in the field, and don't even understand the most basic concepts in science. LOL.
Ah yes... but you're the one who's going to open for us the mysteries of the universe.

What basic concepts in science are you claiming that I do not understand? Be specific when you are spewing lies about people.

Another thing the god-botherers do, is use science, (including evolution as practiced in medicine with antibiotics engineered to get around EVOLVING bacteria)

You are so completely ignorant and full of shit, it's mind blowing. Anti-biotics are a mold that was proven to kill bacteria way back in 1928 and anti-biotics were discoverd and invented by a Roman Catholic at a Catholic hospital and the discovery had nothing to do with evolution.

,ie they call 911, if they have chest pain or other things. They don't just pray, if they pray at all, and avail themselves of EVERY cure science has researched and found, to maintain life. They're in no hurry to get to their god(s). There is no evidence theists ever say "OK, stop the treatments, I'm ready for heaven" ... any more often than anyone else. They don't *really* believe much it appears. If they do, it has no practical effect.

We have incredible immune systems thanks to God, but we also sometimes need professional care and luckily we have incredibly smart people who work in healing as well as an abundant and amazing earth that provides us the materials necessary to make medicines to cure and heal us. And about 80% of the doctors in the United States believe in God and an afterlife.

[Amarok]

You will never spend another honest day as an atheist no matter what you want to pretend in front of a group of other atheists. Atheism is illogical to the point of being impossible.

Funny we say the same thing about her and theism 

And I am not a valley girl.

She is right their way above her in the brains department

[Everena]

You will never spend another honest day as an atheist no matter what you want to pretend in front of a group of other atheists. Atheism is illogical to the point of being impossible.

And I am not a valley girl.

Speak for yourself snookums. You speak for NO ONE. NO ONE else.
You STILL can't tell us which logic system you use, and why, or WHY it is illogical.
All you can do is shoot this meaningless drivel out your uneducated ass.
Atheism is logical enough for Penrose ... idiot.

You are an ignorant fool who I have proven wrong time and time again. And I am far more educated than you are. All you do is spew ignorant untrue crap almost non-stop. Penrose believes in the soul and eternal life and that consciousness is coming from the universe. He is just not religious and does not believe in the Christian God.

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You will never spend another honest day as an atheist no matter what you want to pretend in front of a group of other atheists. Atheism is illogical to the point of being impossible.

Funny we say the same thing about her and theism 

Even if you said it, you would have nothing to back it up with. Atheism is totally foolish, and there is no logical basis for it what so ever, and there is zero evidence that supports it.

And I am not a valley girl.

She is right their way above her in the brains department

You spelled they're wrong.

[Paleophyte]

Still doesn't get your "God" off the hook for natural disasters. Take volcanoes for instance. Not made by humans. I'm betting that being boiled alive by a pyroclastic flow is a pretty horrifying way to go. Or drowned by a tsunami. Or crushed my a mudslide. All "God's" fault.

Pro Tip: At this point your best bet is argue that your "Deity" is merely an incompetent bumbler.

Though really, you have to be a pretty alarming sadist to create all these horrors and then curse some innocent primate with sentience so that it might comprehend the full breadth and depth of your hatred.

I think we choose the way we die and we only ever suffer through any fear or pain that we have intentionally caused. I think natural disasters happen for a reason and those souls would rather be in a better place than this anyway. I know for myself, I have lost my fear of death completely with all the experiences and signs I have had, and I am ready to go at any time.

Yeah, right. The population of Pompeii and Herculaneum chose to die by being boiled, crushed, burned, poison gasses, and suffocation.

Sure those things happen for a reason. God is malevolent.

[sdelsolray]

Yes, Poster Everena exhibits many symptoms for each of the four DSM-5 Cluster B personality disorders:

Borderline Personality Disorder.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Histrionic Personality Disorder.
Antisocial Personality Disorder.

[Paleophyte]

Divine Malevolence as Demonstrated by Trophic Efficiency

As most of you know, we live in a reality where you have to kill and eat other living organisms to survive. That sort of ghastly behaviour can really only be explained by a malevolent deity to begin with, but it's worse than even that.

Trophic Efficiency is a measure of how effective biological systems are at moving energy through the ecosystem. It's at about 10% per energy transfer. That means that it takes 1000 calories of grass to make 100 calories of cow, to make 10 calories of human, to make 1 calorie of grave worms.

So not only do you have to kill and eat other living creatures to survive, you have to kill ten times as many! This sort of gruesome mess can only be reconciled with a particularly hateful god.

[Amarok]

It's still funny how she thinks i'm going to respond to her directly 

Nope i'm simply going to casually demonstrate her nonsense .

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Divine Malevolence as Demonstrated by Trophic Efficiency

As most of you know, we live in a reality where you have to kill and eat other living organisms to survive. That sort of ghastly behaviour can really only be explained by a malevolent deity to begin with, but it's worse than even that.

Trophic Efficiency is a measure of how effective biological systems are at moving energy through the ecosystem. It's at about 10% per energy transfer. That means that it takes 1000 calories of grass to make 100 calories of cow, to make 10 calories of human, to make 1 calorie of grave worms.

So not only do you have to kill and eat other living creatures to survive, you have to kill ten times as many! This sort of gruesome mess can only be reconciled with a particularly hateful god.

But that's because of "the fall"

[Paleophyte]

She is right their way above her in the brains department

You spelled they're wrong.

You spelled there wrong.

[Everena]

I think we choose the way we die and we only ever suffer through any fear or pain that we have intentionally caused. I think natural disasters happen for a reason and those souls would rather be in a better place than this anyway. I know for myself, I have lost my fear of death completely with all the experiences and signs I have had, and I am ready to go at any time.

Yeah, right. The population of Pompeii and Herculaneum chose to die by being boiled, crushed, burned, poison gasses, and suffocation.

Sure those things happen for a reason. God is malevolent.

You have no idea what any of those people have done or why they would choose to die that way.

 Are you going to pretend that people don't have a history of doing truly horrifying things? Terrorists and suicide bombers, people commiting mass genocide in some parts of the world, Hitler, Nazis and the Holocaust. the burning of over 200,000 "witches" in the 14th and 15th, and 16th century, the KKK burning black people to death, the mass rapes and beatings of people all over the world during times of war, child enslavement and forced prostitution, early American settlers raping and murdering Native Americans and it just goes on and on. 

Not everyone is nice. Some people are taking the long road to learning to be nice.

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She is right their way above her in the brains department

You spelled they're wrong.

You spelled there wrong.

No, but you just did. It is they're in any sentence that it can replace they are, such as in this case. You all are in desperate need of even a very basic education.

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Yes, Poster Everena exhibits many symptoms for each of the four DSM-5 Cluster B personality disorders:

Borderline Personality Disorder.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Histrionic Personality Disorder.
Antisocial Personality Disorder.

Oh yes, and the old- believers are crazy bit. Over 93% of the world must just be crazy. Yes, you are so intelligent. That must be it.

[Anomalocaris]

Yes, Poster Everena exhibits many symptoms for each of the four DSM-5 Cluster B personality disorders:

Borderline Personality Disorder.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Histrionic Personality Disorder.
Antisocial Personality Disorder.

Oh yes, and the old- believers are crazy bit. Over 93% of the world must just be crazy. Yes, you are so intelligent. That must be it.

He didn’t say believers are crazy.   He said you are crazy.

In the intelligence department, if he is not part of that 93%, then he is bidding fair to be substantially more intelligent and better educated than that 93% is on average.