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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 2:58 pm
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Quote:Atheism is a religion in the United States.
Having legal freedom from religion does make it a religion and not American.
Quote: If you live somewhere else, you may not refer to it as such.
I do
Quote: Of course it was the atheist that demanded it, and wanted religious protections.
Wanting freedom from religion is not the same as wanting to be a religion and "the atheists" didn't ask for anything A GROUP of atheist did .
Quote:Throw in the atheist mega churches, hymns, and whatever else and "practicing atheism" is a full blown religion.
Nope the atheist church is a cult it has nothing to do with Atheism sorry
Quote: If you beg for it and get it, you should own it.
Lol see the above
Quote:The rest also apparently went over your head. Darwin impacted it indirectly because the concepts were misinterpreted and applied in a different manner, but it was clearly a driving force due to the ideology.
Nope it wasn't Darwin as i pointed out already
Quote:I don't think it would be fair for anybody to blame Darwin, no more than saying television makes someone kill someone, but we can still pick up ideas from such things.
Too bad their no relation of idea's as i showed clearly above the Nazi's did get their idea's from Darwin
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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(December 9, 2018 at 2:56 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 2:52 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Atheism is a religion in the United States. If you live somewhere else, you may not refer to it as such. Of course it was the atheist that demanded it, and wanted religious protections. Throw in the atheist mega churches, hymns, and whatever else and "practicing atheism" is a full blown religion. If you beg for it and get it, you should own it. The rest also apparently went over your head. Darwin impacted it indirectly because the concepts were misinterpreted and applied in a different manner, but it was clearly a driving force due to the ideology. I don't think it would be fair for anybody to blame Darwin, no more than saying television makes someone kill someone, but we can still pick up ideas from such things.
What part of atheism is the religion?
I can see how using religious laws to protect our lack of belief is smart but then companies in the US legally have the same rights as people, do you think companies are people?
You are "Nones", which sounds like "Nuns", but is something else.
National Geographic even did a story on it - The World's Newest Major Religion: No Religion
So maybe technically atheism isn't your religion, but rather you being "Nones" are the religion and atheism is just your leaning towards that religion. Kinda like a religious denomination. That's good for you since that's what you all wanted. In Dec 2016, you were even included in the International Religious Freedom Act. So it looks like you got a nice parting gift from Obama when he granted you your request. Congratulations.
(December 9, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Amarok Wrote: Quote:Atheism is a religion in the United States.
Having legal freedom from religion does make it a religion and not American.
Quote: If you live somewhere else, you may not refer to it as such.
I do
Quote: Of course it was the atheist that demanded it, and wanted religious protections.
Wanting freedom from religion is not the same as wanting to be a religion and "the atheists" didn't ask for anything A GROUP of atheist did .
Quote:Throw in the atheist mega churches, hymns, and whatever else and "practicing atheism" is a full blown religion.
Nope the atheist church is a cult it has nothing to do with Atheism sorry
Quote: If you beg for it and get it, you should own it.
Lol see the above
Quote:The rest also apparently went over your head. Darwin impacted it indirectly because the concepts were misinterpreted and applied in a different manner, but it was clearly a driving force due to the ideology.
Nope it wasn't Darwin as i pointed out already
Quote:I don't think it would be fair for anybody to blame Darwin, no more than saying television makes someone kill someone, but we can still pick up ideas from such things.
Too bad their no relation of idea's as i showed clearly above the Nazi's did get their idea's from Darwin
There are lots of atheist cults. So I don't see the relevance. It just makes you religious all the more. Why is your version better than their version? What makes it anymore authentic?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:11 pm
(December 9, 2018 at 1:51 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Yeah, and then read the follow-up article in THE SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN. Be sure to follow the links.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...u-to-know/
I like Scientific American, but whoever wrote that didn't do a very good job. Point #4 might have something to it, but the others are either irrelevant or don't appear to be completely accurate. For example, we know Darwin's work impacted the Holocaust, even though it was indirectly and not all the ideas were applied. I think it would be fair the say it was an "awful misinterpretation", but it just shows how information can be used an abused. As far as the scientists thinking they were filming for a different movie, I don't see why it would matter. If they say something they believe for one movie, why wouldn't those same statements be just as valid in something else? Unless it was assume they were supposed to be saying something they didn't believe, but did it for a fictional piece. The members in the auditorium are highly irrelevant. Even if every one of them was intentional, evaluation would be on what was being stated, and not the crowd, especially if it's in a video. The last two points are neither here nor there. No religion, including atheism, is a prerequisite to scientific study and the adherence to any of them doesn't require an interest in science.
Some good points.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:13 pm
(December 9, 2018 at 3:11 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 1:51 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I like Scientific American, but whoever wrote that didn't do a very good job. Point #4 might have something to it, but the others are either irrelevant or don't appear to be completely accurate. For example, we know Darwin's work impacted the Holocaust, even though it was indirectly and not all the ideas were applied. I think it would be fair the say it was an "awful misinterpretation", but it just shows how information can be used an abused. As far as the scientists thinking they were filming for a different movie, I don't see why it would matter. If they say something they believe for one movie, why wouldn't those same statements be just as valid in something else? Unless it was assume they were supposed to be saying something they didn't believe, but did it for a fictional piece. The members in the auditorium are highly irrelevant. Even if every one of them was intentional, evaluation would be on what was being stated, and not the crowd, especially if it's in a video. The last two points are neither here nor there. No religion, including atheism, is a prerequisite to scientific study and the adherence to any of them doesn't require an interest in science.
Some good points.
Thank you sir.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:13 pm
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(December 9, 2018 at 2:28 pm)Amarok Wrote: (December 9, 2018 at 2:19 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No bullshit! You have done nothing but
Wrong, I don't do that. It's what I have been faced with on here, in large quantities.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:33 pm
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Quote:You are "Nones", which sounds like "Nuns", but is something else.
Nope
Quote:National Geographic even did a story on it - The World's Newest Major Religion: No Religion
Simply false
Quote:So maybe technically atheism isn't your religion, but rather you being "Nones" are the religion and atheism is just your leaning towards that religion.
No were not
Quote: Kinda like a religious denomination.
Nope
Quote:That's good for you since that's what you all wanted.
Nope
Quote: In Dec 2016, you were even included in the International Religious Freedom Act.
Which only grants freedom from religion not makes atheism a religion
Quote:So it looks like you got a nice parting gift from Obama when he granted you your request. Congratulations.
Nope
Quote:There are lots of atheist cults.
But Atheism itself cannot be a cult
Quote:So I don't see the relevance.
You wouldn't
Quote: It just makes you religious all the more.
No it doesn't it shows a distinction between atheism and who add shit that has nothing to do with the term
Quote: Why is your version better than their version?
Simple because it's atheism is
Quote:What makes it anymore authentic?
Simple because it's atheism is
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:37 pm
(December 8, 2018 at 10:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (December 8, 2018 at 10:10 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Of course he isn't. He is highly skilled at extracting money from gullible rubes.
In that case you must perforce also believe that the moon landings were faked, right?
After all, that is the claim of Prof. James H. Fetzer who also holds a PhD in the philosophy of science.
No, actually I believe we landed on the moon. I believe in real conspiracies like CIA MK Ultra, FBI Cointelpro,...
But Fetzer claims they were faked and he holds a PhD in the philosophy of science just like your hero Meyer. You accept one but not the other.
You further illustrate your dishonesty.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 3:41 pm
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So to recap
Atheism is simply a disbelief in god nothing else the cults add to it have anything to do with atheism and are wholly apart from it
Atheist may be given the same legal protections from persecution by the religious but that not the same as being a religion
Quote:Wrong, I don't do that. It's what I have been faced with on here, in large quantities.
Not even
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 4:03 pm
(December 9, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Amarok Wrote: So to recap
Atheism is simply a disbelief in god nothing else the cults add to it have anything to do with atheism and are wholly apart from it
Atheist may be given the same legal protections from persecution by the religious but that not the same as being a religion
Quote:Wrong, I don't do that. It's what I have been faced with on here, in large quantities.
Not even
You are a religion. You even organize as a religion. You do the exact same things that everybody else is doing. Churches, preaching, offerings, tax exemptions, church leaders conducting services, and so on and so on. Sorry, but I'm just going to have to agree with National Geographic. They've been around for decades and have been known to be very reputable.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 9, 2018 at 4:21 pm
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Quote:You are a religion.
No Atheism is not it's individual non belief in god
Quote:You even organize as a religion.
No it's not their no positive central doctrine that one must accept to be an atheist any that are imposed are not atheism
Quote:You do the exact same things that everybody else is doing.
No i don't and if one goes by the definition i literally couldn't
Quote:Churches, preaching, offerings, tax exemptions, church leaders conducting services, and so on and so on.
Nope a cult has taken some religious idea's and has tried to strap it onto an idea they have nothing to do with . It's a ludicrous as installing a screen door on a submarine
Quote: Sorry, but I'm just going to have to agree with National Geographic.
Then your are a fool
Quote:They've been around for decades and have been known to be very reputable.
And they have been wrong plenty and this is one time they are
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