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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 5:27 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2019 at 5:32 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(March 7, 2019 at 4:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 5:48 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: But evolution is not at all random. It matters not a whit how random mutations are because once evolution gets in the driving seat, the randomness is eliminated naturally.That you can't figure that out tells everyone more about your powers of intellect than anything else.
And knock it off with the monkey lie. It's tedious and obvious.
The random mutations are random. Either everything in this universe is random without a purpose or it is designed. Those are the only two options. And the process of evolution is not. Get that into your thick skull. And stop lying about it.
Also a false dichotomy. The universe can be both at the same time, if you gave it a moments thought, which you obviously don't.
(March 7, 2019 at 4:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: If I know one thing, I know design when I see it. Now you have a huge problem. If everything is designed, you have no basis for making any such determination. According to you everything in the universe is designed. Therefore you can have no idea what anything undesigned might even look like without resorting to making shit up, again.
Also, if everything in the universe is designed, then by definition you cannot "know design when you see it" because you never "don't" see it so you can't possibly tell.
Disagree? Then go ahead and give me an example of anything in this universe that is not designed.
(March 7, 2019 at 5:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (March 6, 2019 at 6:02 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The you know that humans and chimpanzees share 98% of their genes, right?
Common design plans are typically used by designers for different systems. So god had the monkey blueprints just laying about and decided to reuse most of an existing blueprint to create man.
Consequence: The "monkey" plan predated the "man" plan. You are arguing to be directly descended from monkeys. By godly fiat.
You're not very good at this, are you?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2019 at 7:54 pm by fredd bear.)
"Consequence: The "monkey" plan predated the "man" plan. You are arguing to be directly descended from monkeys. By godly fiat."
Yeah, a common misunderstanding, not just with Gormless christians;
Darwin did not argue we are descended from monkeys. We have common ancestors.
Human beings are primates just as are say gorillas. We did not descend from apes, we ARE a species of ape.. That is the meaning of 'primate'
So far I have never come across a christian apologist who has actually read and understood Darwin.
"Humans (Homo sapiens) are the only extant members of the subtribe Hominina. Together with chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans, they are part of the family Hominidae (the great apes, or hominids). A terrestrial animal, humans are characterized by their erect posture and bipedal locomotion; high manual dexterity and heavy tool use compared to other animals; open-ended and complex language use compared to other animal communications; larger, more complex brains than other animals; and highly advanced and organized societies.[3][4"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
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The link below about primates is also worth reading;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 9:36 pm
Why do you guys keep feeding him?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 9:52 pm
The dysteleological argument. The argument from piss-poor design.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_fr...atal_flaws
LOL
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 10:44 pm
(March 7, 2019 at 9:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you guys keep feeding him?
I've already Emailed one administrator, asking that CDF47 be banned. Nothing has happened yet.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 10:58 pm
(March 7, 2019 at 10:44 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: (March 7, 2019 at 9:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why do you guys keep feeding him?
I've already Emailed one administrator, asking that CDF47 be banned. Nothing has happened yet.
CDF is not breaking any rules. Your problem is a self-inflicted one. If people stop engaging him he will go away. If people choose to continue engaging him, then they will continue to suffer his presence here. The atheists in this discussion hold literally 100% of the power.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 7, 2019 at 11:32 pm
Must admit though.
At this point CDF47 isn't actually really 'Engaging' with folks. Though they are still a wolrd above interacting with things like Drich and MistarAbbots80-something.
They're pretty much just posting 'Nuh-uh!' and 'I'm right and you're a poopy head."
Well, maybe not the Poopy head aspect but still.
A whole lot of nothing but repeated assertions with nothing but the same, poor, discredited/debunkt pieces of information.
That's the sad part. The discoveries in science keep marching on but the sources CDF47 trots out? They aren't progressing or leanring anything new, like, ever.
At best you'll hear/read CDF47's pot make something up waaaay after the fact. Like a couple of years. Or, if they are on point, their undestanding is so poor they make a comeplete hash out of it any way.
 CDF47.
Is sad that you can't let go of your.... 'Dreams' and even try to understand the world around you.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 8, 2019 at 2:23 am
Internet trolls are an interesting breed, especially the religitard variety. They can live almost indefinitely on regurgitated words.
They never truly go away. They lie in wait and eventually bore their way in. Once a forum is infested with them, there is no way to get rid of them!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 8, 2019 at 3:02 am
(March 8, 2019 at 2:23 am)no one Wrote: Internet trolls are an interesting breed, especially the religitard variety. They can live almost indefinitely on regurgitated words.
They never truly go away. They lie in wait and eventually bore their way in. Once a forum is infested with them, there is no way to get rid of them!
Agreed.
When I complained about these apologist dickheads it was explained that they are permitted to stop people getting bored. As comic relief if you will. I guess it makes a form of sense. May even be right. I must admit it's been fascinating to read the responses of otherwise rational members. -----I'm making an observation only. I'm certainly in no position to judge the rationality of others. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 8, 2019 at 7:00 am
(March 8, 2019 at 2:23 am)no one Wrote: Internet trolls are an interesting breed, especially the religitard variety. They can live almost indefinitely on regurgitated words.
They never truly go away. They lie in wait and eventually bore their way in. Once a forum is infested with them, there is no way to get rid of them!
Well, at this point I agree with LadyforCamus. Arguing with CDF47 is a waste of time. You can endlessly refute him with science, but it will only fall on deaf ears and he will just keep repeating the same empty claims. It's like trying to reason with a little kid who just keeps stamping his foot and shouting, "No, it isn't! No, it ISN'T!" I'm done with trying to deal with this religious retard. 
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