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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 6:49 am
(May 10, 2019 at 6:46 am)Alan V Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 2:06 am)CDF47 Wrote: I think it is amazing that we got this far to discover that there is a genetic code. This is proof of design and the good LORD only requires faith which is a "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof." I have and had faith most my life but now He has even given us proof. How can you turn from Him?
Theists assume that only a conscious superbeing could design something like DNA, when it is quite clear that mindless evolution can "design" complexity over long periods of time. You would have to prove the alternative impossible, which you can't do. Yours is an argument from incredulity.
As for your question, "How can you turn from Him?", you are assuming your particular God was the creator God. Even if you could prove DNA was created, you couldn't prove from that alone that it was your particular God who did it.
I "turn from Him" because a God is not the simplest and most likely explanation for what we see. God is a failed hypothesis.
God is the most likely. The prophecies in the Book came true.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 7:35 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2019 at 7:39 am by Alan V.)
(May 10, 2019 at 6:49 am)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 6:46 am)Alan V Wrote: Theists assume that only a conscious superbeing could design something like DNA, when it is quite clear that mindless evolution can "design" complexity over long periods of time. You would have to prove the alternative impossible, which you can't do. Yours is an argument from incredulity.
As for your question, "How can you turn from Him?", you are assuming your particular God was the creator God. Even if you could prove DNA was created, you couldn't prove from that alone that it was your particular God who did it.
I "turn from Him" because a God is not the simplest and most likely explanation for what we see. God is a failed hypothesis.
God is the most likely. The prophecies in the Book came true.
Ever hear of "confirmation bias"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
The reason why a God is a less likely explanation is because it requires a whole other, unexplained "spiritual dimension" to reality. That is not an economical hypothesis.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 7:48 am
(May 10, 2019 at 7:35 am)Alan V Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 6:49 am)CDF47 Wrote: God is the most likely. The prophecies in the Book came true.
Ever hear of "confirmation bias"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
The reason why a God is a less likely explanation is because it requires a whole other, unexplained "spiritual dimension" to reality. That is not an economical hypothesis.
No matter what this has to say it cannot defeat the design argument since a code was discovered in DNA.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 7:54 am
(May 10, 2019 at 7:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: No matter what this has to say it cannot defeat the design argument since a code was discovered in DNA.
Which does not equate to designer no matter how much you attempt to squeeze it in there.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 8:12 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2019 at 8:16 am by Amarok.)
(May 10, 2019 at 7:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 7:35 am)Alan V Wrote: Ever hear of "confirmation bias"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
The reason why a God is a less likely explanation is because it requires a whole other, unexplained "spiritual dimension" to reality. That is not an economical hypothesis.
No matter what this has to say it cannot defeat the design argument since a code was discovered in DNA. Just keep repeating that as if it helps you (spoilers it doesn't)
(May 10, 2019 at 7:54 am)Fierce Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 7:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: No matter what this has to say it cannot defeat the design argument since a code was discovered in DNA.
Which does not equate to designer no matter how much you attempt to squeeze it in there. Too bad his "code" is only chemistry
Quote:There are good commentaries explaining this prophecy (Tyre prophecy). Matthew Henry,.... Many see this as an amazing prophecy
No there are not and only stupid people view it as such
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 9:03 am
![[Image: icon_quote.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.trackie.com%2Ftrack-and-field%2Fimg%2Flayout%2Ficon_quote.jpg) CDFSTER:
How can you turn from him?
Simple, if god is real, god is simply a colossal twatwaffle!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 9:12 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2019 at 9:13 am by Mister Agenda.)
You gonna start that new thread on prophecy, CDF47? Maybe it would break a thousand pages, too. In fact, I'm almost sure it would.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 11:37 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2019 at 11:39 am by CDF47.)
(May 10, 2019 at 7:54 am)Fierce Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 7:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: No matter what this has to say it cannot defeat the design argument since a code was discovered in DNA.
Which does not equate to designer no matter how much you attempt to squeeze it in there.
It sure does.
(May 10, 2019 at 8:12 am)Amarok Wrote: (May 10, 2019 at 7:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: No matter what this has to say it cannot defeat the design argument since a code was discovered in DNA. Just keep repeating that as if it helps you (spoilers it doesn't)
(May 10, 2019 at 7:54 am)Fierce Wrote: Which does not equate to designer no matter how much you attempt to squeeze it in there. Too bad his "code" is only chemistry
Quote:There are good commentaries explaining this prophecy (Tyre prophecy). Matthew Henry,.... Many see this as an amazing prophecy
No there are not and only stupid people view it as such
It's a great prophecy!
(May 10, 2019 at 9:12 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You gonna start that new thread on prophecy, CDF47? Maybe it would break a thousand pages, too. In fact, I'm almost sure it would.
Lets just use this thread to discuss it unless a moderator takes issue with that. Plus, we already have been discussing it here.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 11:41 am
(May 10, 2019 at 11:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: It sure does.
You can keep telling yourself that, but it really doesn't.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2019 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2019 at 12:43 pm by sdelsolray.)
(May 9, 2019 at 11:51 pm)Fierce Wrote: @CDF47
I don't know if it's been brought up, but is this why you started the thread?
Yes, CDF47 is a Discovery Institute acolyte, and is particularly enthralled with Stephen Meyer. He lauded Meyer's book, Signature in the Cell. When pressed, however, CDF47 admitted he has not read that book, but was quite proud to point out that he has watched videos involving Meyer.
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