Ahlulbayt in Quran and blindness to them is best explained by dark magic.

[zebo-the-fat]

First define magic, how it works and what it's principles are.
Second explain "dark magic" and how it's different from any other magic.

But you must do the first one first

[Mystic]

There is good healing magic, and the difference is that tries to demolish black magic and untie the knots and locks.

And as for how it works, I will get to that.

[FatAndFaithless]

Why do I expect it'll just be another wall of text from the koran?

[brewer]

Do your doctors know of this recent obsession/fixation with a hint of mania?

[chimp3]

No, at this point you're just preaching.  Address the points that people are raising.

You are going to have let me form the case before I started debating it. It's like a teacher beginning to talk and everyone interrupts and doesn't let them explain.

You're not a teacher ,MK! Get over yourself! You're not making sense and the Koran is worthless jibberish.

[SaStrike]

This makes me lose faith in humanity as a species.

[Mystic]

Guys, honestly, if you can explain why 4:59 or other verses I iterated, are read in the way they are today.....from natural reasons, I'm all ears.



Another lock that took me a while to break, is the following:

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَتْلُونَ كِتَابَ اللَّهِ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنْفَقُوا مِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ سِرًّا وَعَلَانِيَةً يَرْجُونَ تِجَارَةً لَنْ تَبُورَ {29}
[size=undefined][Shakir 35:29] Surely they who recite the Book of Allah and keep up prayer and spend out of what We have given them secretly and openly, hope for a gain which will not perish.[/size]
لِيُوَفِّيَهُمْ أُجُورَهُمْ وَيَزِيدَهُمْ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ ۚ إِنَّهُ غَفُورٌ شَكُورٌ {30}
[size=undefined][Shakir 35:30] That He may pay them back fully their rewards and give them more out of His grace: surely He is Forgiving, Multiplier of rewards.[/size]
وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ هُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ بِعِبَادِهِ لَخَبِيرٌ بَصِيرٌ {31}
[size=undefined][Shakir 35:31] And that which We have revealed to you of the Book, that is the truth verifying that which is before it; most surely with respect to His servants Allah is Aware, Seeing.[/size]
ثُمَّ أَوْرَثْنَا الْكِتَابَ الَّذِينَ اصْطَفَيْنَا مِنْ عِبَادِنَا ۖ فَمِنْهُمْ ظَالِمٌ لِنَفْسِهِ وَمِنْهُمْ مُقْتَصِدٌ وَمِنْهُمْ سَابِقٌ بِالْخَيْرَاتِ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ هُوَ الْفَضْلُ الْكَبِيرُ {32}
[size=undefined][ 35:32] Then We gave the Book for an inheritance to those whom We chose from among Our servants; so of them is he who makes his soul to suffer a loss, and of them is he who takes a middle course, and of them is he who is foremost in deeds of goodness by Allah's permission; this is the great excellence.[/size]
جَنَّاتُ عَدْنٍ يَدْخُلُونَهَا يُحَلَّوْنَ فِيهَا مِنْ أَسَاوِرَ مِنْ ذَهَبٍ وَلُؤْلُؤًا ۖ وَلِبَاسُهُمْ فِيهَا حَرِيرٌ {33}
[size=undefined][Shakir 35:33] Gardens of perpetuity, they shall enter therein; they shad be made to wear therein bracelets of gold and pearls, and their dress therein shall be silk.[/size]
وَقَالُوا الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي أَذْهَبَ عَنَّا الْحَزَنَ ۖ إِنَّ رَبَّنَا لَغَفُورٌ شَكُورٌ {34}
[size=undefined][Shakir 35:34] And they shall say: (All) praise is due to Allah, Who has made grief to depart from us; most surely our Lord is Forgiving, Multiplier of rewards,[/size]
الَّذِي أَحَلَّنَا دَارَ الْمُقَامَةِ مِنْ فَضْلِهِ لَا يَمَسُّنَا فِيهَا نَصَبٌ وَلَا يَمَسُّنَا فِيهَا لُغُوبٌ {35}





I took the "but" and made into "so" in 35:32 and for good reason.

Anyways, most people and most Muslims around the world, not only is it impossible for them to see "so of them" refer back to servants of God, they don't consider the possibility that it refers back to that at all, and assume it must refer to "those chosen...."

The thing with the word "astafa", it's been used through out Quran to emphasized a special type of selecting, a choosing above all else, choosing the best type of choice.

So here it would be obvious such servants are chosen by God, but then people read it without considering it possible otherwise, that "of them" refers to them.

What makes is beyond clear to me now, that "of them" refers to servants, is the verse before emphasizing on "and God with respect to his servants, is aware seeing. Then we inherited the book to those who we chosen of our servants so of them...", the bold is to emphasize how I think it should be read.

Another huge indicator of this aside from what has been said about the emphasis on servants before, and the meaning of chosen through out Quran to be exalted servants chosen above all normal people, is that the verses before already emphasized on the reward of those who recite God's book.

So here the inheriting of the book refers to something else, then that, it's higher type of inheritance, a complete inheritance of it.


I propose if it was bias that plays in a natural way, humans would see both possibilities and then assess which is more likely, and bias can then push one way or the other.

But what is happening is that people can't even see the possibility I mentioned as a possibility let alone analyze it and realize it's the proper way to see it.

This to me is a clear indication of real locks on the heart that prevent people from reciting.

Of course the locks can be broken, but it takes struggle and dependency on God.

[The Grand Nudger]

"People don;t believe my silly shit, black magic is the only explanation!" 

[Pat Mustard]

MK study this chart well.  There will be a test

[Little lunch]

MK, you seem like a likeable lad, but every time you do this I get the impression that you are going off the rails, mentally.
It wouldn't hurt to see a doctor and I'm not saying that to be an arsehole.
I genuinely worry that you have an illness that's probably treatable in a way that could improve your quality of life as well as clear your thought patterns.
I base this conjecture on the way you flutter from one idea to the next, not just from what you've written here.
There even seems to be an escalation in the illogicality of your ideas over time.
Even if you just talk to family and friends to see how they view what I'm saying.
I do realise how pretentious it sounds of me to make such a suggestion given that I'm far from being an expert in mental health.