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Me, cyborg...
#41
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(June 12, 2018 at 10:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Johnny Mnemonic.

If it were an option.....I;d like to live out my life au- natural, and then have my brain kept alive in a motherfucking SC Dragoon!

Your life for Aiur?
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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#42
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I am returned!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#43
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(June 13, 2018 at 5:50 pm)KittyAnn Wrote:
(June 13, 2018 at 5:02 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Is your will ever free?

while I have a choice ... then yes i have my  free will ..
but if I lose this opportunity, I'll be slaved by drugs or another person who won't allow me to make a conscious decision, then yes my free will is limited and I can even say that I lost it.. Sad

Is your will truly free?
Are your choices free?
Given the exact same setting for some situation in your life (which I know is impossible, but hypothetically speaking) would you ever come to a choice different than the one you've made?

If you add some technology to you, it will influence your decisions, of course.
If I didn't wear glasses, my eyesight would be poor and I wouldn't choose to ride my bicycle as fast as I do, for example, out of fear of missing some obstacle.
What you want is for those decisions to not be made by the technology... but is there a difference?
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#44
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(June 14, 2018 at 3:39 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(June 13, 2018 at 5:50 pm)KittyAnn Wrote: while I have a choice ... then yes i have my  free will ..
but if I lose this opportunity, I'll be slaved by drugs or another person who won't allow me to make a conscious decision, then yes my free will is limited and I can even say that I lost it.. Sad

Is your will truly free?
Are your choices free?
Given the exact same setting for some situation in your life (which I know is impossible, but hypothetically speaking) would you ever come to a choice different than the one you've made?

If you add some technology to you, it will influence your decisions, of course.
If I didn't wear glasses, my eyesight would be poor and I wouldn't choose to ride my bicycle as fast as I do, for example, out of fear of missing some obstacle.
What you want is for those decisions to not be made by the technology... but is there a difference?

Yes, my will is free ... and my choices are free
That it can be good or bad choice is another story
Of course, the world is so built that we have certain limitations if we want to live in a civilized society ... but we still have free will and we choose ... we want or not
Another fairy tale is that we are either strong enough that we don't give up on it or weak enough to surrender it ... but our will is still free.
What we do with it is our business ...
I wouldn't want this computer to make a decision for me, although probably based on the algorithms it would be better decisions than I'd have taken ... but it's better to think that it's me, not the machine, right?

...and speaking about my choice in the past yes i could do different choice and sometimes i regret it...but i was to weak to do it ..but also it was my decision not machine ...so now it is as it is.. c'est la vie!
"Alone is what I have. Alone protects me." 
“I may be on the side of the angels but don’t think for one second that I am one of them.”
“The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existence. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery each day."
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#45
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Finally an answer to the question about free will. Free from what?

In this case, from the technology.
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#46
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(June 14, 2018 at 5:03 am)KittyAnn Wrote:
(June 14, 2018 at 3:39 am)pocaracas Wrote: Is your will truly free?
Are your choices free?
Given the exact same setting for some situation in your life (which I know is impossible, but hypothetically speaking) would you ever come to a choice different than the one you've made?

If you add some technology to you, it will influence your decisions, of course.
If I didn't wear glasses, my eyesight would be poor and I wouldn't choose to ride my bicycle as fast as I do, for example, out of fear of missing some obstacle.
What you want is for those decisions to not be made by the technology... but is there a difference?

Yes, my will is free ... and my choices are free

Free from what?
Free from anyone else?... most likely, yes... within the bounds genetically and socially imposed upon you as a social animal.
Free from biophysics? Somehow, I doubt that...

(June 14, 2018 at 5:03 am)KittyAnn Wrote: Of course, the world is so built that we have certain limitations if we want to live in a civilized society ... but we still have free will and we choose ... we want or not

Yes, we choose... but is our decision truly free in such a way that we could reason differently from what we've done, given the exact same information that we had, the exact same situation, the exact same emotional state, the exact same world?

(June 14, 2018 at 5:03 am)KittyAnn Wrote: I wouldn't want this computer to make a decision for me, although probably based on the algorithms it would be better decisions than I'd have taken ... but it's better to think that it's me, not the machine, right?

It is better to think thus... but is us thinking we choose equivalent to us actually choosing?

(June 14, 2018 at 5:03 am)KittyAnn Wrote: ...and speaking about my choice in the past yes i could do different choice and sometimes i regret it...but i was to weak to do it ..but also it was my decision not machine ...so now it is as it is.. c'est la vie!

Could you really?
Given the same situation, and no knowledge of how things turned out, would you really make a different decision?
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#47
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No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#49
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^ Where's Clarence?

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No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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(June 14, 2018 at 6:20 am)ignoramus Wrote: [Image: 2c7e2d.jpg]

of course you can Big Grin Tongue
I love your sense of humor Smile
"Alone is what I have. Alone protects me." 
“I may be on the side of the angels but don’t think for one second that I am one of them.”
“The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existence. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery each day."
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