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Prove honesty is virtuous!
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Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 1:22 am
Evolution is a wild beast.

How can honesty be favored, if dishonesty is equally beneficial to survive?

Self-honesty wise, back in the day,  wouldn't go with the Shamans and their stories and lies,  and self-deceiving yourself that you know them to be true, be better then refuting them and not uniting with your tribe/people on them.

At the same time, honesty to others,  could get you in trouble.  

Seems again, evolution favors both the evil and good. Where it suits us to be dishonest to ourselves and others for survival and thriving, we did it.

And where it didn't, it did not.

This a tip of the iceberg of the problem with morality and evolution.
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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 1:29 am (This post was last modified: May 29, 2018 at 1:30 am by Amarok.)
Pure ignorance .Both of Biology and of Metaethics .

You simply fail at it all.
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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 3:54 am
(May 29, 2018 at 1:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Evolution is a wild beast.

How can honesty be favored, if dishonesty is equally beneficial to survive?

Self-honesty wise, back in the day,  wouldn't go with the Shamans and their stories and lies,  and self-deceiving yourself that you know them to be true, be better then refuting them and not uniting with your tribe/people on them.

At the same time, honesty to others,  could get you in trouble.  

Seems again, evolution favors both the evil and good. Where it suits us to be dishonest to ourselves and others for survival and thriving, we did it.

And where it didn't, it did not.

This a tip of the iceberg of the problem with morality and evolution.

Well, you said you wouldn't post anymore, yet here you are.  Is this current post an attempt to prove that you yourself are behaving morally by being dishonest?

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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 4:41 am
Maybe the sating should be changed to "Tact is the best policy".
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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 5:03 am
(May 29, 2018 at 4:41 am)Chad32 Wrote: Maybe the sating should be changed to "Tact is the best policy".

Fair point.

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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 5:52 am
(May 29, 2018 at 1:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Evolution is a wild beast.

How can honesty be favored, if dishonesty is equally beneficial to survive?

Self-honesty wise, back in the day,  wouldn't go with the Shamans and their stories and lies,  and self-deceiving yourself that you know them to be true, be better then refuting them and not uniting with your tribe/people on them.

At the same time, honesty to others,  could get you in trouble.  

Seems again, evolution favors both the evil and good. Where it suits us to be dishonest to ourselves and others for survival and thriving, we did it.

And where it didn't, it did not.

This a tip of the iceberg of the problem with morality and evolution.
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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 10:24 am
(May 29, 2018 at 1:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Evolution is a wild beast.

How can honesty be favored, if dishonesty is equally beneficial to survive?

Self-honesty wise, back in the day,  wouldn't go with the Shamans and their stories and lies,  and self-deceiving yourself that you know them to be true, be better then refuting them and not uniting with your tribe/people on them.

At the same time, honesty to others,  could get you in trouble.  

Seems again, evolution favors both the evil and good. Where it suits us to be dishonest to ourselves and others for survival and thriving, we did it.

And where it didn't, it did not.

This a tip of the iceberg of the problem with morality and evolution.

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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 29, 2018 at 10:33 am
Prove honesty is virtuous! Win fabulous prizes!
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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 30, 2018 at 6:14 pm
"Prove that a made-up concept is really the same as the concept that we made up."
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RE: Prove honesty is virtuous!
May 30, 2018 at 7:03 pm
(May 29, 2018 at 1:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Prove honesty is virtuous!

Step one: turn honesty into a mathematical proposition without addition or subtraction.
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