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Alien Crucifixion Scenario
#81
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
(June 8, 2018 at 12:20 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(June 7, 2018 at 5:00 am)Mathilda Wrote: There is no god. You'll die and decompose. Eventually the people who remember you will die and decompose.

There is God and when you die and decompose you will meet Him one on one at a judgement. You are right I and everyone else will die and decompose, our spirit/ soul will return to God awaiting a unification with a new and glorious body or a judgement leading to hell, which will you choose.

There is no such thing as a spirit or soul. If there was then anesthesia would not work and we'd be awake in the middle of operations while being cut up, alcohol and drugs would not have an effect on our feelings, decision making and neurodegenerative diseases would have no effect on memories and you couldn't get knocked unconscious. You are your brain. Nothing else. Once your brain is gone, so are you.

When you'll die there will be no you to realise that you are dead. If you have ever been put under for an operation you'll know what it will be like. Consciousness will cease. No dreams. Nothing.
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#82
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
GC thinks we evolved as a vessel purely to store our soul and consciousness.

Couldn't be more further from the truth. Our evolutionary truth is there in plain sight to see, dissect and analyse ...
Show us one scrap of your divine truth Dunno anything!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#83
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
(June 7, 2018 at 5:51 am)ignoramus Wrote: Therefore...

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With blinders, at least one still still sees what is a sliver of reality.


With Christianity one plucks out one’s eyes to avoid seeing any reality as none of reality would be as one’s inner infant might wish. In doing so the Christian might gladden his mean yet juvenile and pretentious heart with words ascribed to an alledged overlord who is still said to be kind and loving: And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
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#84
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
(June 8, 2018 at 2:10 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 8, 2018 at 12:20 am)Godscreated Wrote: There is God and when you die and decompose you will meet Him one on one at a judgement. You are right I and everyone else will die and decompose, our spirit/ soul will return to God awaiting a unification with a new and glorious body or a judgement leading to hell, which will you choose.

There is no such thing as a spirit or soul. If there was then anesthesia would not work and we'd be awake in the middle of operations while being cut up, alcohol and drugs would not have an effect on our feelings, decision making and neurodegenerative diseases would have no effect on memories and you couldn't get knocked unconscious. You are your brain. Nothing else. Once your brain is gone, so are you.

Proof please, insinuations are not fact.

Mathilda Wrote:When you'll die there will be no you to realise that you are dead. If you have ever been put under for an operation you'll know what it will be like. Consciousness will cease. No dreams. Nothing.

 I take it you're speaking from experience, but wait, why you are alive you can't possibly know what you claim.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#85
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
Quote:Proof please, insinuations are not fact
Neither is any of the crap you spew 


Quote: I take it you're speaking from experience, but wait, why you are alive you can't possibly know what you claim.

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#86
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
(June 9, 2018 at 12:01 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(June 8, 2018 at 2:10 am)Mathilda Wrote: There is no such thing as a spirit or soul. If there was then anesthesia would not work and we'd be awake in the middle of operations while being cut up, alcohol and drugs would not have an effect on our feelings, decision making and neurodegenerative diseases would have no effect on memories and you couldn't get knocked unconscious. You are your brain. Nothing else. Once your brain is gone, so are you.

Proof please, insinuations are not fact.

Oh right so it's OK to talk about Mr God as if he was a fact but when someone says the contrary you demand proof. Not even evidence but proof. Shows that you want to believe what you want to believe.

Read the medical literature. Or the neuroscience literature and look at all the recorded effects of brain lesions. Or have an operation where you are put under with anesthetic. Or go to an old folk's home and speak to someone with Alzheimer's. Or get drunk and take drugs. See how the way you think and feel and the very essence of who you are changes because of how your brain is interfered with.

Now give me equally compelling evidence that your god exists.


(June 9, 2018 at 12:01 am)Godscreated Wrote:
Mathilda Wrote:When you'll die there will be no you to realise that you are dead. If you have ever been put under for an operation you'll know what it will be like. Consciousness will cease. No dreams. Nothing.

 I take it you're speaking from experience, but wait, why you are alive you can't possibly know what you claim.

Science baby. It means that we can determine these things collectively rather than rely on individual experience.

There is no god. When you die, that's it. Nothing.
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#87
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
(June 9, 2018 at 4:08 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(June 9, 2018 at 12:01 am)Godscreated Wrote: Proof please, insinuations are not fact.

Oh right so it's OK to talk about Mr God as if he was a fact but when someone says the contrary you demand proof. Not even evidence but proof. Shows that you want to believe what you want to believe.

Wrong shows I know what I know and will accept nothing less.

Read the medical literature. Or the neuroscience literature and look at all the recorded effects of brain lesions. I have. Or have an operation where you are put under with anesthetic. I have. Or go to an old folk's home and speak to someone with Alzheimer's. I have. Or get drunk and take drugs. I have.  See how the way you think and feel and the very essence of who you are changes because of how your brain is interfered with. I have.

Now give me equally compelling evidence that your god exists.[/quote]

Bold is mine and an answer to each inquiry. Those answers show I understand what I'm saying. I know for a fact God is real and that is the requirement of God from me and I have accepted this. It's your requirement too, that is if you desire to escape the eternal punishment you are making for yourself. Atheist accuse God of being an eternal punisher, He is not, why because you are the one causing your on punishment, no one has forced you, you've willingly chosen this fate unless you change. Like I said I've seen and done those things and know that they have nothing to do with the spirit/soul that resides within me.


(June 9, 2018 at 12:01 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I take it you're speaking from experience, but wait, why you are alive you can't possibly know what you claim.

Mathilda Wrote:Science baby. It means that we can determine these things collectively rather than rely on individual experience.

There is no god. When you die, that's it. Nothing.

Science as you want it is fictional, I personally enjoy good science and look for it. Science will never disprove God as you seem to think it has already do and there are many atheist scientist that will tell you the same thing, baby. When science has no answer for the spirit/soul then there is no way it can prove nor disprove it. Like I have always said I can not prove God to you because you want what is not possible for me to give, you need to ask God, never know He might surprise you.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#88
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
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#89
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
Does he drown 99% of the population first? Then later tell the President to take a census, then kills 70,000 people because the President listened?
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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#90
RE: Alien Crucifixion Scenario
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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