A challenge to anyone I guess!

[robvalue]

Yes. I think he desperately needs help, and I worry that he doesn't have anyone around him who is capable of separating their religion from his care. I worry someone is in fact using all this to plunge him further into the religious fantasy.

I've thought about all our long-term theists. They must know us well enough now that if one of us did announce we suddenly believe in God, let alone have joined their religion, they wouldn't believe us. At least I assume they wouldn't. That makes me wonder why they persist.

[Angrboda]

These prophecies may all be applied to Muhammad and to Islam. Thus, when Muhammad claimed that other messengers of God had prophesied about him, he was correct. The problem is that these messengers predicted the rise of false prophets, not the rise of a new religion after Christianity.

Muhammad in the Bible?

[Neo-Scholastic]

Ooh! Pick me! Pick me!

You forgot to change the color of your text to your trademark pink.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yes. I think he desperately needs help, and I worry that he doesn't have anyone around him who is capable of separating their religion from his care. I worry someone is in fact using all this to plunge him further into the religious fantasy.

What tipped you off...the part where he disappeared for a grip and then came back radicalized by an iranian backed syrian terror group, lol?

[Mystic]

Pink Beard, are you actually interested?

[GUBU]

I will argue Mohammad is predicted in the Torah and Gospels that have reached us today and am not arguing for the 100% accurate original Torah and Gospels per Islam.

No he is not. mohammed was invented by the then current Caliph in c 850ce to justify the Arabic conquest of the middle east.

It is most likely the first two generations of conquerors were jews until they decided that having the religion of their slaves was beneath them.

[Minimalist]

Far more likely that they were heretical monophysite xtians forced out of the Eastern Roman Empire into the marginal lands of Arabia.  When the Byzantines and Persians ripped each other to shreds in the 6th century they were the only force left standing.

[Mystic]

Whatever the case maybe, Mohammad is still in the Bible (Torah and Gospels today).

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I would further argue trinity as interpreted by the Church was simply a way to do away with the clear Prophecies of Mohammad instead of preparing for him.  The real followers of Jesus however gathered in Arabia and became Muslims as recalled by Quran.

I argue with the proper interpretation which can be proven still in the Bible today through reason, Mohammad is clearly predicted therein. 

Jesus had to be made more important than just the last in line of Successors of Moses - who were all Messengers/Prophets, but, really the Prophecies all point to Mohammad who is the one predicted by Moses in the prayer he does regarding his tongue, and also I will argue why the holy spirit/name of God/image of God/face of God on earth has been downgraded in understanding despite how clear the Bible is about it and has used synonyms to keep the proper meaning of God's power and authority on earth.

Because with that perspective, no doubt Mohammad is predicted by Jesus, so instead you get this very arbitrary and non-understandable interpretation of the holy spirit, when the whole Bible has clarified in detail, and showed the instances of it on earth.

There is a clear contradiction in the bible, one with the Quranic perspective of who God entrusts leadership to and another with a deviated perspective that sorcerers put in there, to justify their confusion and deceiving ways. 

Anyone willing to debate this with me, is welcome. 

I believe the Quranic explanation of these Prophecies and subtle allusions will manifest them, starting foremost with Moses' prayer and the position of Aaron, and the link to his previous intention obviously pointing to Mohammad, which I will elaborate why per Quran.