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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:27 am
(June 4, 2018 at 9:20 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: God in my mind is a vague void, more like space.
Because I don't know a color for void, I picture a blank space extending to infinity.
It's impossible to assign gender to something like that; it is just not valid. I also believe that assigning a body to him is quite not valid also.
I refer to "him" using "him", because language dictates it. Gender is below him though; he created both male and female genders, and created what we don't know.
I didn't hear any voices or had any experiences. I can feel his presence though, through meanings -stuff like karma-.
Another way to explain "void" is non existent, empty space. So in a way you know and admit there is nothing there.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:29 am
(June 5, 2018 at 9:27 am)robvalue Wrote: PS: religions are not complementary, they are at odds.
If you let it's proclaimed clergy represent the truth they all iterate sure, but if you look hard enough, which I am beginning to see with Tao, Torah, some oral traditions of Native Americans, and Quran, and Gospels, they seem to come together nicely.
I got to study Hindu scripture and see for myself if that iterates the truth as well.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:30 am
(June 5, 2018 at 9:26 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It's hard to take these conversations seriously when you are trying to apply fallacies to simple argue and not understand and move forward in dialogue.
So, you're trying to say that my concern for the truth of your statements is not a concern for truth? Stop being a weasel, MK.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:31 am
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(June 5, 2018 at 9:26 am)Khemikal Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 8:31 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
Killing apostates, killing gays, not giving women right to divorce with same right as men, etc.. a lot to say the least. Then go deal with that. Take your Mystic approved whiteout edition of magic book and preach it where it counts. To muslims.
I am trying... it's just they are very emotional when it comes to their idol/leaders.
(June 5, 2018 at 9:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 9:26 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It's hard to take these conversations seriously when you are trying to apply fallacies to simple argue and not understand and move forward in dialogue.
So, you're trying to say that my concern for the truth of your statements is not a concern for truth? Stop being a weasel, MK.
You never try to see the angle of the statement generously but from the worse possible way. That's not honest concern for truth, that's you acting on impulse and looking for faults.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:32 am
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Oh, heaven forfend..you don;t mean to tell me that their emotional attachments to their idols prevent them from becoming emotionally attached to your idols?
Whodda thunk it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:34 am
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(June 5, 2018 at 9:32 am)Khemikal Wrote: Oh, heaven forfend..you don;t mean to tell me that their emotional attachments to their idols prevent them from becoming emotionally attached to your idols?
Whodda thunk it.
The true leaders appointed by God if not followed with proof and if blindly praised as such are idols among idols.
I can't prove to you that I have not made them into idols, all I can prove to you is that Quran has appointed them clearly but something dark prevents people from accepting it or perceiving it.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:37 am
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You;re greatly overestimating your own abilities, besides, I keep telling you that I don;t care what your magic book says and don;t recognize kingship anyway.
How many times do I have to tell your "god" I;m just not into him? Fucking demons and dark forces....that shit is a joke. A loser;s excuse for why the pretty girl won;t go to prom with him. It;s just not my bag, understand?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:37 am
(June 5, 2018 at 9:31 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 9:30 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: So, you're trying to say that my concern for the truth of your statements is not a concern for truth? Stop being a weasel, MK.
You never try to see the angle of the statement generously but from the worse possible way. That's not honest concern for truth, that's you acting on impulse and looking for faults.
That's simply a lie, MK. You're going from bad to worse simply to save face over an obvious error. Whether theists claim to have full direct experience of God is irrelevant as the knowledge that they claim they do have contradicts your earlier suppositions. I wasn't ignoring anything or being uncharitable in my interpretation. That you want to now walk back an erroneous statement and make excuses for yourself simply paints you out to be a disingenuous and dishonest person.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:39 am
Alright, I hope God helps you recite his holy books with a little more charity then to my words.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 5, 2018 at 9:41 am
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(June 5, 2018 at 9:39 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Alright, I hope God helps you recite his holy books with a little more charity then to my words. ![Smile Smile](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Why would I bother when, as you yourself claim, God will forgive me my ignorance if I simply ignore your holy books?
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