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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:21 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 9:27 am)SaStrike Wrote: (June 4, 2018 at 9:20 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: God in my mind is a vague void, more like space.
Because I don't know a color for void, I picture a blank space extending to infinity.
It's impossible to assign gender to something like that; it is just not valid. I also believe that assigning a body to him is quite not valid also.
I refer to "him" using "him", because language dictates it. Gender is below him though; he created both male and female genders, and created what we don't know.
I didn't hear any voices or had any experiences. I can feel his presence though, through meanings -stuff like karma-.
Another way to explain "void" is non existent, empty space. So in a way you know and admit there is nothing there.
Nothing that "I can see or feel"; my point is that it is possible for something to exist out of our detecting senses.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:25 pm
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Good luck, however, demonstrating any particular object or instance of that. To be blunt, anything "beyond our detecting senses" is fundamentally beyond our ability to demonstrate. So..if you think both that there are things beyond our detecting senses -and- that you have proof of just such a thing..I can conclusively use my detecting senses to demonstrably establish that you must be wrong about one of those two propositions.
They cannot be simultaneously true..you have to pick one and stick with it. It can;t be undetectable whenever you;re called to task..and detected whenever you find it convenient.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:32 pm
We see God, we are told it's hallucination, we point proofs to him, and people want to see him come down to them or demand irrational type acts from God. We show the way forward to seeing, they turn away from the path, not even giving it a try.
Allergic to any spiritual effort, they take their blindness as proof God doesn't exist.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:34 pm
Yes, we know..all of your own failures are always someone else;s fault.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:34 pm
(June 6, 2018 at 6:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Yes, we know..all of your own failures are always someone else;s fault.
What failure, your refusal is your failure, I've proven God many times.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:37 pm
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OFC you have, lol. It;s just that the entire world is demon possessed and engaged in a massive satanic conspiracy. That;s the only possible explanation for the failure of your brilliance to shine through.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 6:38 pm
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 7:54 pm
(June 6, 2018 at 6:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We see God, we are told it's hallucination, we point proofs to him, and people want to see him come down to them or demand irrational type acts from God. We show the way forward to seeing, they turn away from the path, not even giving it a try.
Allergic to any spiritual effort, they take their blindness as proof God doesn't exist.
I'm not so much concerned with your belief, it's your obsessive fixation. If AF is any indication it appears to be taking over your life in an unhealthy way.
But I'm sure that you will deny this. I can almost hear it now, "How can god be unhealthy?".
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Theists, please describe how you experience your god
June 6, 2018 at 8:30 pm
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(June 6, 2018 at 6:38 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(June 6, 2018 at 6:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Good luck, however, demonstrating any particular object or instance of that. To be blunt, anything "beyond our detecting senses" is fundamentally beyond our ability to demonstrate. So..if you think both that there are things beyond our detecting senses -and- that you have proof of just such a thing..I can conclusively use my detecting senses to demonstrably establish that you must be wrong about one of those two propositions.
They cannot be simultaneously true..you have to pick one and stick with it. It can;t be undetectable whenever you;re called to task..and detected whenever you find it convenient.
Exactly. That's why we have the design to conclude God from it.
We can't realize the full scale of God or demonstrate it: That makes god detectable, then. Like I said...I knew one of those two propositions had to be false.
Now that you've declared god to be detectable..you've made god falsifiable, and in offering up "the design" as the example...you've falsified him. Maybe it;s time for him to engage his romulan cloak again?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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