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So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
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RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
Some might contend it was a crime against humanity to have encouraged them to come here in the first place. And they were encouraged.

Angry
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#12
RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 6:42 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Some might contend it was a crime against humanity to have encouraged them to come here in the first place.  And they were encouraged.

Angry
We've been importing people for centuries.  The question is should we continue to do so and what will be the effects if it continues?

https://www.fairus.org

It's like the recent stabbing in Boise, Idaho.  When our own distressed college students, veterans, and assorted citizens are homeless why are foreigners being given housing, medical treatment, free schooling, jobs, and countless other benefits?
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#13
RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
Unescorted children ?? If I had kids and turned them loose in the desert, I'd be in prison, and I would not be there with my kids either.

Dodgy
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 6:56 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Unescorted children ??  If I had kids and turned them loose in the desert, I'd be in prison, and I would not be there with my kids either.

Dodgy

Unescorted children ??   That's very good evidence of absolutely horrible parenting.  Imagine telling your pre-teen kids to hit the road and go to Argentina or Peru or Canada or El Salavdor.  Someone should take those foreign country leaders to the woodshed for a severe beating.
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RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(July 6, 2018 at 6:42 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Some might contend it was a crime against humanity to have encouraged them to come here in the first place.  And they were encouraged.

Angry
We've been importing people for centuries.  The question is should we continue to do so and what will be the effects if it continues?

https://www.fairus.org

It's like the recent stabbing in Boise, Idaho.  When our own distressed college students, veterans, and assorted citizens are homeless why are foreigners being given housing, medical treatment, free schooling, jobs, and countless other benefits?

Foreign? Prove that migration only comes from other planets first. But don't fucking assume that everyone who comes here are violent.

"We need to keep violent people out"...... NO SHIT, but why should that include assuming the worst when the majority of humans are merely moving to where they think they can survive?

MOST MIGRANTS ARE  NOT VIOLENT!

And if you want to really do your homework, most people whom commit violent acts ARE LEGAL CITIZENS, not migrants.

Just like most citizens of China are not violent, but most of China's prisoners are Chinese. Just like most Japanese are NOT violent but the majority of their prisoners are Japanese. MOST Americans ARE NOT VIOLENT but most of our prisoners are LEGAL CITIZENS.

It is bullshit to equate the few to the majority. Most humans worldwide do not seek violence. Most humans who migrate ANYWHERE  to any country are simply trying to avoid violence and seek a better life. 

So when you point out a fraction of a larger sample I say BULLSHIT! Treat individuals as such. 

No, do not ask me to snoop on my Hispanic neighbors on both sides of me, whom have lived next to me for 11 years without one lick of trouble. In my 51 years I have run into far more trouble with my fellow Americans whom have legal status.
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RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 6:42 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Some might contend it was a crime against humanity to have encouraged them to come here in the first place. And they were encouraged.

Angry

I'm sure that native Americans feel that way.
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RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: We've been importing people for centuries.  The question is should we continue to do so and what will be the effects if it continues?

https://www.fairus.org

It's like the recent stabbing in Boise, Idaho.  When our own distressed college students, veterans, and assorted citizens are homeless why are foreigners being given housing, medical treatment, free schooling, jobs, and countless other benefits?

Foreign? Prove that migration only comes from other planets first. But don't fucking assume that everyone who comes here are violent.

"We need to keep violent people out"...... NO SHIT, but why should that include assuming the worst when the majority of humans are merely moving to where they think they can survive?

MOST MIGRANTS ARE  NOT VIOLENT!

And if you want to really do your homework, most people whom commit violent acts ARE LEGAL CITIZENS, not migrants.

Just like most citizens of China are not violent, but most of China's prisoners are Chinese. Just like most Japanese are NOT violent but the majority of their prisoners are Japanese. MOST Americans ARE NOT VIOLENT but most of our prisoners are LEGAL CITIZENS.

It is bullshit to equate the few to the majority. Most humans worldwide do not seek violence. Most humans who migrate ANYWHERE  to any country are simply trying to avoid violence and seek a better life. 

So when you point out a fraction of a larger sample I say BULLSHIT! Treat individuals as such. 

No, do not ask me to snoop on my Hispanic neighbors on both sides of me, whom have lived next to me for 11 years without one lick of trouble. In my 51 years I have run into far more trouble with my fellow Americans whom have legal status.

Did I say that the illegal aliens are violent?  No, I did not.  I've said that they are taking resources that can be used to alleviate the suffering of our citizens.  The guy who went bonkers in Boise was upset at seeing foreigners living a life of ease while he had always been on the short end. so people react, just like this woman =

(Note:  video has extreme vulgar language and image of perp so don't get triggered)

'Go back to your own f****** country,' woman screams at passenger on NY bus, video shows

"A New York woman's alleged racist rant on a Rockland County bus was so disturbing that the driver was forced to call 911 and wait for police to remove her from the vehicle, ABC 7 reported. Now 57-year-old Anne Marie Messiano faces charges of disorderly conduct, criminal obstruction of breathing and aggravated harassment, according to the station.

A passenger filmed several clips of the woman's behavior on the bus and posted them to Facebook.

"Ignorance at its finest, saw this nonsense today coming home from work today on the bus, one of the reasons why I don’t like public transportation ... " he wrote.

One video shows the woman screaming at other passengers to "shut up" before saying "I hope you all got your m****f***** papers." She says she's "sick" of them, and then asks "You got papers to be in this country?""
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-w...36019.html

Will this issue result in the creation of a militant movement to force illegal aliens out of the country?  And how can you tell an illegal alien from a citizen?  

This is a major issue and it needs to addressed before it gets out of control.
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#18
RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 6:42 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Some might contend it was a crime against humanity to have encouraged them to come here in the first place.  And they were encouraged.

Angry

Yea how dare the French give us a statue with a slogan conveying inclusion! ABBA's song Voulez Vous I will never listen to again!
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#19
RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
(July 6, 2018 at 6:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: . . .  and the nearly 20,000 unescorted children already here in custody continue to garner absolutely no fucking attention.

Angry

Human apathy can be frightening

(July 6, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(July 6, 2018 at 6:42 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Some might contend it was a crime against humanity to have encouraged them to come here in the first place.  And they were encouraged.

Angry

I'm sure that native Americans feel that way.

I can vouch for this
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#20
RE: So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making
Meanwhile, the orange turd and his little turdlings continue to seek waivers for "foreign workers."  What a lying sack of shit.  And his asswipe fans fall for it every time.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/06/trumps-mar...oreigners/


Quote:Trump’s Mar-a-Lago wants to hire dozens of foreigners

Quote:Mar-a-Lago, President Trump’s self-described “Winter White House,“ asked the feds’ permission to hire 61 temporary foreign workers as cooks, waiters and waitresses — despite his repeated knocks on immigrants and cries to “Hire American!”

Quote:While the president has pushed American companies with foreign operations to relocate to the US, and for all American companies to hire US workers, he has defended hiring temporary foreign workers by claiming that it’s “very, very hard to get help” during the Florida tourist season.

Quote:“The buy and hire American order I’m about to sign will protect workers and students like you,” Trump told students and employees at the headquarters of Snap-On Tools, a Wisconsin-based manufacturer, CNN reported.
“It’s America first, you better believe it. It’s time. It’s time, right?”
Trump said the order would “aggressively promote and use American-made goods and to ensure that American labor is hired to do the job.”
But many of Trump’s signature product line and amenities in his hotels are made abroad, including clothing from Asia, Mexico and Central America.
Likewise, first daughter Ivanka Trump’s clothing and lifestyle lines are manufactured in low-wage countries including Bangladesh, China, India, Indonesia and Vietnam.


Yeah - farmers feel the same way when their crops are rotting in the fields you miserable fuck.

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