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Are executions making the US look bad?
#1
Are executions making the US look bad?
The only other Western democracy who executes criminals (all of whom are mass murderers) is Japan, usually, just after Christmas on the same day; on the other hand, the United States starts to execute just after the first week of the New Year (sometimes a few days after January 1) but ending almost always before December 15th.

With the war raging in the Ukraine, are executions harming the credibility of the United States as being a leader in moral and humanistic values?
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
(May 16, 2022 at 8:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The only other Western democracy who executes criminals (all of whom are mass murderers) is Japan, usually, just after Christmas on the same day; on the other hand, the United States starts to execute just after the first week of the New Year (sometimes a few days after January 1) but ending almost always before December 15th.

With the war raging in the Ukraine, are executions harming the credibility of the United States as being a leader in moral and humanistic values?

We certainly look askance at the US for continuing to execute people. It’s really a minor factor (compared with their treatment of immigrants, their institutional racism, their evident corruption, their economic imperialism, and so on) in their loss of credibility.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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#3
RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
Seems to be that executions couldn't really make us look good. Kindof baked in, isn't it?
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#4
RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
Nah, just makes the other countries look like pansies.
<insert profound quote here>
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#5
RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
Probably not because movies glamorized it. If it was done in France or Belgium or Germany then it would seem cold and inhuman, but when it's in the US then people see it as Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon waltzing around the electric chair.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
(May 16, 2022 at 9:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Seems to be that executions couldn't really make us look good. Kindof baked in, isn't it?

I admit that my question was somewhat rhetorical, but, if everyone agrees that executing criminals makes the US look bad in the eyes of the World, why do we continue to execute criminals?
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
Because better than half of us agree with the death penalty, presumably, some of them even as they acknowledge that it's not a great look.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20...n-the-u-s/
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#8
RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
Hear me out. Sexecutions; Death by snu snu. Everyone wins.
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
(May 16, 2022 at 9:57 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Nah, just makes the other countries look like pansies.

If that's the price of eliminating the possibility of the State executing innocent people, I'll take all the pansification you can dish out.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RE: Are executions making the US look bad?
(May 17, 2022 at 12:45 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Hear me out. Sexecutions; Death by snu snu. Everyone wins.

I am tempted to copy and paste your post into Google translate. Can you clarify?
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)
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