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Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
#31
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
Quote:I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.

Not any more.

And before you get all huffy just remember what our domestic racist shitballs were pulling when Obama was president.

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#32
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 1:40 am)FlyingNarwhal Wrote:
(June 22, 2018 at 12:13 am)Tizheruk Wrote: The NRA attack Obama's Daughters 
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/n...Page2.html

Fox News Attacks Obama's Daughters 
https://www.diversityinc.com/news/malia-obama-fox-news

How about Ann Coulter encouraging people to go after Obama's kids  


I could go on with how many awful things were said about Bill Clinton's daughter during her dads trial .

-The NRA ad is bad because it involves Obama's daughters, but it is not a direct attack on them.  They are used for cheap political points which I don't like either, but the NRA didn't call them cunts.

-Fox News didn't attack Obama's daughters, there was a comment section in one of their articles that got way out of control.  Fox News shut down the comment section in response.  The things a lot of the people said were super fucked up, but we're talking anonymous internet trolls, not established media personalities like I chose as examples.  If we're going to bring this discussion down to what random people are saying on the internet we may as well nuke the conversation.

-Interestingly enough I looked into the Ann Coulter thing, and while she brings up going after Obama's daughters it's a hyperbolic response which she clarifies at the end of her statement.  It also should be noted that she doesn't even directly attack the children, she casually mentions it as a response and then dismisses it immediately afterwards.
Quote:Ann Coulter: No, that's right. And they (liberals) do go after the children. I mean, I just say going after the children, generally, to be off limits. It has not been off limits for Republicans. Though, conservatives have take the Obama children off limits, so, you know, maybe it's time to start imitating liberals in another way and go after the Obama children.

But, I think it's just more of going after the family members and the children, and by the way that has been done grotesquely and viciously over the years, by the left. Including, frequently outing gay children of right-wingers. You know, if you get involved in political dialogue you're not supposed to be putting your family at risk. You are the one who is out there making the arguments, take the shots at the public figure. Don't start attacking their children.

I'm seriously asking though, who else is calling the president's daughter a cunt and saying she should fuck her father?  Or suggesting that a 12 year old child of the president should get raped to teach the president a lesson?  This is a whole new level of hatred.  Can you find me anything to this level where the person making the statement wasn't fired or faced harsh consequences?

Nice excuse making

(June 22, 2018 at 1:50 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.

Not any more.

And before you get all huffy just remember what our domestic racist shitballs were pulling when Obama was president.

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Oh no that's all perfectly fine because it wasn't children .Lol

(June 22, 2018 at 1:47 am)Khemikal Wrote: The president..thats who...lol.

Lets not pretend.   Lets not reach for the smelling salts all of a sudden.  You just quoted Ann -when brown babies arent stolen america dies- Coulter..for fucks sake.  If Vanky doesnt want to be involved..she can pay the price her father clearly desires and be done with it.  If Barron is supposed to be off limits..then so are guatemalan children.
But Khem no one called Obama's daughters cunts and got fired so it's okay by some odd metric .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#33
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 12:16 am)Cecelia Wrote:
(June 21, 2018 at 11:13 pm)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.  On top of that of the three examples I brought up only Colbert's insult was meant for Trump in particular.  The other two were directed at his kids.  You can make the argument that Ivanka is at least involved in politicking but Barron is a 12 year old.  There's never been this much vitriol directed at a President's family.

I also don't think it does much good for Democrats either.  I think the blatant hate pushes away your more centrist and non political voters, as well as also serving as a reason to continue to fire up the Republican base.  I think you see that reflected in his approval ratings going up.  If it keeps up I don't think the mid terms are going to look as good as the Democrats are thinking they'll be and 2020 will be a nightmare for them.

Yeah, it's not like Republicans attacked Sasha and Malia--oh wait, they DID.  In fact many of you Republicans called them the N word and said you hoped they got aids or one of those 'colored diseases'.  So give me a break with this whole "Kids are off limits!" phony baloney. For that matter, let's not forget that you republicans attacked David Hogg too, and one of you even swatted him. A survivor of a school shooting. Republicans are classless as always.

Furthermore, the office of President deserves ZERO respect with Trump in office.  Especially after the way Obama was treated--and he was a REAL President.  One that actually thought about more than himself.  When a pussy grabbing, twitter addicted, white supremacist, narcissist  buffoon is President, the office has zero dignity and deserves zero respect.  And neither does our country for that matter.  We've lost our place as leaders of the free world.  In that, Trump has succeeded.

First off I'm not a Republican, I'm a registered Independent. I was a couple of months shy of being 18 to vote in 2008, but was a strong supporter of Obama. In 2012 I voted for Obama. In this past election I would have voted for Bernie Sanders had the DNC not royally fucked him. I voted down ticket this past election, because I didn't like either candidate. Thanks for baselessly calling me a racist and classless by the way, just another reason why over the past few years I've started distancing myself with left leaning political ideology.

I'm not just saying that the vitriol on the left is pushing away centrist voters because I'm a conservative, I'm saying it because I AM a centrist that IS being pushed away by the vitriol from the by the left. I'm not sure if you've ever heard the term Uncanny Valley? but it describes a sort of revulsion that people feel when something looks human but isn't quite human. I've had similar feelings towards all of the hatred directed from every corner of the media that it just sets off alarm bells in my head that it's not genuine. When I see almost every single mainstream news outlet scream about something trump did, no matter how insignificant, it gives credibility to his claims of fake news.

I'm just saying, things need to calm down on the left because if they don't they are going to continue to lose control of political power and alienate the majority of voters.
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#34
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
No he deserves he gets. If the majority are stupid enough to feel sorry for him that proves democracy is broken beyond repair . So no the left don't need to calm down the majority need to get their heads straight .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#35
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 21, 2018 at 9:44 pm)Joods Wrote: I swear, it's almost like once you become a celebrity,  all tact and common sense go out the window.

It's almost like once you put a lying, xenophobic, unapologetic, boorish, narcissistic, and thin-skinned reality TV star on the highest pedestal in the country, political discourse turns into a sh*t-flinging contest.

It is part of the job of celebrities to be controversial, to say and do stupid sh*t in order to attract attention. Politicians and governmental officials are supposed to be the opposite - boring and well-behaved. Since White House raised the bar on public douchebaggery - I think we can expect a lot worse yet to come, from all sides, on all levels.  

Personally, as a European - and a misanthrope - I can hardly give a f*ck anymore. And I do predict Trump will be re-elected, because USA is a joke...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#36
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
If he was young and cute, I would have given him a pass. But he's old and ugly.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#37
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 1:50 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I think the office he holds deserves at least a modicum of respect.

Not any more.

And before you get all huffy just remember what our domestic racist shitballs were pulling when Obama was president.

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What difference does that make. If it was wrong for them, then it is wrong now right?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#38
RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 21, 2018 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: Off the hinge leftist, Peter Fonda, makes Vulgar Tweet suggesting that Barron Trump be ripped from his mother's arms and be locked in a cage with a pedophile. Fonda is to be appearing in a movie and Sony is standing behind him despite his vile tweet, citing he apologized. So did Roseanne Barr. Okay, ABC. Time to bring Roseanne back. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=56058267


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peter-...ron-trump/

This was disgusting.  ‘They go low, we go high’?  More like, ‘they go low, I go lower’.  Way lower.  Like, to the bottom.

(June 21, 2018 at 9:58 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: The difference between what he SAID and what is actually happening to kids ...is that his words are only words.

It was still awful though.  If something someone says or does is awful, we should be able and willing to identify it as such witrhout pointing our finger and saying, “but they’re worse!” What Rosanne Barr said was “only words”, but no one on the left had trouble identifying them as the vile, hateful, and unacceptable words that they were.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 8:12 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 21, 2018 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote: Off the hinge leftist, Peter Fonda, makes Vulgar Tweet suggesting that Barron Trump be ripped from his mother's arms and be locked in a cage with a pedophile. Fonda is to be appearing in a movie and Sony is standing behind him despite his vile tweet, citing he apologized. So did Roseanne Barr. Okay, ABC. Time to bring Roseanne back. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=56058267


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/peter-...ron-trump/

This was disgusting.  ‘They go low, we go high’?  More like, ‘they go low, I go lower’.  Way lower.  Like, to the bottom.

(June 21, 2018 at 9:58 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: The difference between what he SAID and what is actually happening to kids ...is that his words are only words.

It was still awful though.  If something someone says or does is awful, we should be to identify it as such witrhout pointing our finger and saying, “but they’re worse!”  What Rosanne Barr said was “only words”, but no one on the left had trouble identifying them as the vile, hateful, and unacceptable words that they were.

It was awful but so are the comments that get praise in the media comparing Trump to Hitler and likening America to Nazi Germany. So is calling Ivanka a feckless cunt. I don’t really like Trump but the media has had free reign to mud sling Trump for a long time. Now people are surprised by this comment. It was awful but the media has done this. Personally I don’t care what celebs and ex celebs say all that much. Many of them are assholes and they say things to remain relevant.
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RE: Peter Fonda Makes Vulgar Tweet Suggesting That Barron Trump Be Kidnapped
(June 22, 2018 at 2:24 am)Tizheruk Wrote: No he deserves he gets. If the majority are stupid enough to feel sorry for him that proves democracy is broken beyond repair . So no the left don't need to calm down the majority need to get their heads straight .

See ya in 2020 then.
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