The name of God thread.

[brewer]

I'll not participate any further, not going to feed your obsession.

[Mystic]

2:4 then emphasized "And those who believe in that which has been revealed to you and revealed before you..."

The name of God took on many forms, in the past to the present.  The revelations were revealed time and time again.  

The question arises, how and what basis did they believe? They believe through the name of God, and they perceive due to them holding on to what is from God of that light towards their souls. Through that perception, they believe in the light in the revelations brought down, and their hearts are illuminated through the help of the revelations. The name of God accompanies them so they perceive the truth of God's proofs and signs, and taking the issue seriously their hearts properly reflect over revelations.

Words can only do so much,  there needs to be some degree of safeguarding one's soul from dangers, and a stop at the silly approach to religion that people become misguided by.

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What is interesting is that 2:4 emphasizes on being sure of the next world, and certain of it "..and regarding the final world, they are sure."

The belief in the next world and certainty is almost a prerequisite to really realizing a book is from God.   Although the book has guidance for those who are without certainty of the next world and can lead to certainty in the next world,  there is no doubt in it by the name of God a guidance for those who do guard and have these characteristics.

"These are upon a guidance from their Lord..." (2:5)

And it so the Quran begins on what it repeats and emphasizes on the need of guidance from God at all stages. The guidance is not the book alone, but it being coupled with the name of God, "the guided are only guided by the light of your face".

"and these are that are successful". (2:5)

The Quran has a theme of defining success, and here it says regardless of what they may have attained position in this world, these people are truly successful, and the word "these are that are successful" implies the successful are them and they are the successful, anyone failing to attain these characteristics, have failed a big failing.

Why is that? Again, due to the name of God, which they increase in vision and light and power of.  These people are the people of distinction in God's vision which is the only vision that matters really when it comes to the value we have earned.

[Astreja]

I'm out too. MK, you don't seem to be making any effort at all to see things from *our* point of view, so discussing belief and non-belief with you is a waste of time. All you do is insult us for being "blind" or "stubborn" simply because we don't believe -- or in my particular case, cannot believe.

[Nay_Sayer]

It's pronounced, Fly- Ing- Spuh- Get- Tee- Mon- Ster

[Anomalocaris]

I am still taking bets on how MK will leave this forum. My bet is one day he will disappear for good, the next day we will hear of a suicide bombing.

[The Valkyrie]

Luciander von Itchynutts.

[The Grand Nudger]

I am still taking bets on how MK will leave this forum.  My bet is one day he will disappear for good, the next day we will hear of a suicide bombing.

Shia terrrorists aren;t....usually...suicide bombers.  We;re unfamiliar with them here in the west but they;re working on that.

[Ravenshire]

I really think you're deluding yourself, MK.  I think you're talking to an imaginary being who lives only in your mind and in the minds of other believers, and you just pick and choose whatever guidance you want to believe is true.

In effect, you're being guided by your own opinion as to what "good guidance" should be.

It's the opposite, I was creating reality by desires, but when I came back to Islam, it was accepting God's proof and name as is.

So, does Bob go out for beers with you?

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What do you mean, "won't listen"?  We're all familiar with what you think is proof; we just don't agree with you.  When you say "won't listen," do you actually mean "won't accept"?

The proof for Islam and Quran, none of you are aware of and you won't bother to become acquainted with it, lest you be guided and have to leave your desires and conjecture concept of the self.  You run away from God's Name and his light and proof, but where are you really going? God's Name is the refuge to God, and his door the path, and his path is the way, and there is misleading ways, yes, those will mix truth with falsehood, good with evil, and mix it all up, but the mixed garbage is evil as well.

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Then tell us of your life outside of the forum. Tell us about your day to day interactions with people around you. 

Do you preach to everyone IRL? Or even preach to the other muslims IRL? Do you insist that you are the only one who really knows the true answers and that they are all ignorant? 

Or is it only on the forum that you get to indulge behavior that would not be accepted IRL society? Behavior that you should be telling your mental health professionals, but I doubt that you actually are.

Forum is a place to discuss these things.  You guys demand evidence and then act irrationally and stubbornly and refuse to listen properly when evidence is presented.

No. We simply reject your assertions because they are not evidence.

Your the only person on this site who may have a lower bar foe evidence than Steve-o has.

[drfuzzy]

2:4 then emphasized

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"And those who believe in that which has been revealed to you and revealed before you..."

The name of God took on many forms, in the past to the present.  The revelations were revealed time and time again.  

The question arises, how and what basis did they believe? They believe through the name of God, and they perceive due to them holding on to what is from God of that light towards their souls. Through that perception, they believe in the light in the revelations brought down, and their hearts are illuminated through the help of the revelations. The name of God accompanies them so they perceive the truth of God's proofs and signs, and taking the issue seriously their hearts properly reflect over revelations.

Words can only do so much,  there needs to be some degree of safeguarding one's soul from dangers, and a stop at the silly approach to religion that people become misguided by.

---

What is interesting is that 2:4 emphasizes on being sure of the next world, and certain of it "..and regarding the final world, they are sure."

The belief in the next world and certainty is almost a prerequisite to really realizing a book is from God.   Although the book has guidance for those who are without certainty of the next world and can lead to certainty in the next world,  there is no doubt in it by the name of God a guidance for those who do guard and have these characteristics.

"These are upon a guidance from their Lord..." (2:5)

And it so the Quran begins on what it repeats and emphasizes on the need of guidance from God at all stages. The guidance is not the book alone, but it being coupled with the name of God, "the guided are only guided by the light of your face".

"and these are that are successful". (2:5)

The Quran has a theme of defining success, and here it says regardless of what they may have attained position in this world, these people are truly successful, and the word "these are that are successful" implies the successful are them and they are the successful, anyone failing to attain these characteristics, have failed a big failing.

Why is that? Again, due to the name of God, which they increase in vision and light and power of.  These people are the people of distinction in God's vision which is the only vision that matters really when it comes to the value we have earned.

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Couldn't give a crap about what your favorite book of fairy tales says.

[Mystic]

Couldn't give a crap about what your favorite book of fairy tales says.

Up to you.