Pro-Life Atheists

[GUBU]

Well, science tells us that the life of a distinct living human being is there at conception. But I am a vegan, pro-universal healthcare, anti-war etc. etc. as well.

[citation needed]

[JairCrawford]

After you take away the religious and political aspects of the topic, is there still a potential moral dilemma?

I would say yes, to an extent. For instance, if we get to the point that we can know that the fetus can experience pain during the procedure after a certain point of development, should that not raise at least some ethical questions?

[Whateverist]

Well, science tells us that the life of a distinct living human being is there at conception. But I am a vegan, pro-universal healthcare, anti-war etc. etc. as well.

I'm pro-universal healthcare and anti-war but I'm for a vastly smaller human population so that those who remain can justify living high enough on the food chain to justify eating meat.  I'm also pro-autonomy, pro-maximizing personal freedom and pro- a woman's right to self determination and bodily integrity.  So while I'm nominally pro-life on an individual basis I'd be fine with a draw down of human biomass.  Every abortion helps.

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After you take away the religious and political aspects of the topic, is there still a potential moral dilemma?

I would say yes, to an extent. For instance, if we get to the point that we can know that the fetus can experience pain during the procedure after a certain point of development, should that not raise at least some ethical questions?

It *my bolded* already does raise moral questions, questions best left to every unexpectedly pregnant woman to decide.

[Amarok]

science tells us that the life of a distinct living human being is there at conception.

This argument has always bugged me are we saying that if a life were indistinct it would be all right to abort it?(whatever that means )

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As far as i'm concerned there is no concern that trumps autonomy.

[The Valkyrie]

Technically the sperm and the egg are also alive.

So masses of sperm commit suicide to murder an egg.

This madness must end!

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[Amarok]

Technically the sperm and the egg are also alive.

So masses of sperm commit suicide to murder an egg.

This madness must end!

🧛‍♀️

Oh they will just argue that it's not a distinct being it's "just a sex cell" too bad that argument falls apart when we turn their own "but it's a potential fetus " on them .

[robvalue]

If someone is "pro-life", I find it interesting to know what they actually mean by this. It seems to me there is a sliding scale. For example:

1) I would personally never have an abortion, because I would consider it to be wrong for me to do so. I respect other peoples' opinions to make their own judgements and choices based on their situation.

2) I think abortion is always wrong in any situation.

3) I think women and/or doctors should be legally punished for attempting abortions.

4) If the state has good reason to believe a woman is (or will soon be) seeking to terminate her pregnancy somehow, she should be arrested and forced to give birth in custody.

[LastPoet]

Technically the sperm and the egg are also alive.

So masses of sperm commit suicide to murder an egg.

This madness must end!

🧛‍♀️

A sperm to the other: "are we there yet?"

"Dunno, but those look like tonsils to me"

I will grab me coat.

[brewer]

After you take away the religious and political aspects of the topic, is there still a potential moral dilemma?

I would say yes, to an extent. For instance, if we get to the point that we can know that the fetus can experience pain during the procedure after a certain point of development, should that not raise at least some ethical questions?

Please define fetal "pain" and "experience".

[Little Rik]

Hi, I was wondering if there are any other Pro-Life Atheists here?

Oh yes, of course there are.  

In fact many of them are PRO-LIFE.  
Especially when is not them who have to die inside the womb.