Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: March 28, 2024, 4:18 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
What the Sun looks like from the other planets
#11
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 18, 2018 at 12:01 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(July 17, 2018 at 11:53 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I wish they did some of the moons i would love to see the sun from Europa.

Europa sounds terrifying 





I think the view from Saturn is just for dramatic effect

The views from the gas giants are from one of their moons. In fact, the one for Jupiter is specifically identified as being from Europa because, well, on the planets themselves, there isn't a surface to land on. I suppose it makes sense for the view from Saturn to be focused on the rings, but the proportions remain out of whack and the cloudy aerial view from Saturn is still nonsensical.
I didn't know that was Europa i skipped Jupiter and yeah gas giants have no surface thou they could have done an airplane view for that one too.As for Saturn looking at it again it's proportions are very off .As for the angle i kind of like even thou i doesn't make sense .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

Reply
#12
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
In reality there would be no one about to see the sun other than us here on earth.
If there is life somewhere, our sun would just be a fading star ...
Or maybe the light from our sun hasn't reached them yet Dunno
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
Reply
#13
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 17, 2018 at 10:52 pm)Fireball Wrote:
(July 17, 2018 at 10:08 pm)A Theist Wrote: Those pics would be interesting to see. At what distances are they?

Saturn, at least. I interviewed for the position of Cognizant Engineer at JPL for the near field antenna test range for the Cassini Mission, but the Italian Space Agency ended up with the contract for those antennas.

I vaguely remember pics of the sun, possibly through Saturn's rings. I also dimly recall that there were pics from about Jupiter's orbit.

Cassini Mission

Some pics

I don't seem to be able to find the pics I was thinking of, but the above give some samples.

Nice. I like those . A friend of mine is an amateur astronomer and photographer. He's taken some amazing pictures of the Sun. Here's his website.. 

http://www.avertedimagination.com/main1.htm
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"

[Image: freddy_03.jpg]

Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
Reply
#14
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 17, 2018 at 10:08 pm)A Theist Wrote: Those pics would be interesting to see. At what distances are they?

Curiosity's first color shots of a sunset on Mars.

[Image: pia19401_fig1_thumb.gif]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new...180955226/
Save a life. Adopt a greyhound.
[Image: JUkLw58.gif]
Reply
#15
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 17, 2018 at 9:04 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Although nice to look at I don't think they are very accurate renditions.

How so?   Granted some of the surface features depicted may nor be the most typical of what would be encountered on each of those bodies. Such as on airless mercury, which has been geologically dead for several billion years, it should be uncommon to find rugged rock formations exposed on the surface that has not been worn down to subdued rounded form by billions of micrometeror impacts.

But what do you think is distinctly wrong and impossible?

(July 18, 2018 at 12:01 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(July 17, 2018 at 11:53 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I wish they did some of the moons i would love to see the sun from Europa.

Europa sounds terrifying 





I think the view from Saturn is just for dramatic effect

The views from the gas giants are from one of their moons. In fact, the one for Jupiter is specifically identified as being from Europa because, well, on the planets themselves, there isn't a surface to land on. I suppose it makes sense for the view from Saturn to be focused on the rings, but the proportions remain out of whack and the cloudy aerial view from Saturn is still nonsensical.


How is it nonsense? there are extensive ammonia and water vapor clouds in saturn’s atmosphere just like there are in Jupiter’s. It seems this view of sunset is quite reasonable from say 10 degrees away from saturn’s equator and above the main cloud deck.

Also, just as you can see a beautiful sunset from an airplane on earth, it doesn’t require a surface for there to be a beautiful view of the sun from a planet.
Reply
#16
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 18, 2018 at 9:54 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(July 17, 2018 at 9:04 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Although nice to look at I don't think they are very accurate renditions.

How so?   Perhaps some of the surface features are slightly questionable and may nor be most typical of what would be encountered on each of those bodies, but what do you think is distinctly wrong?

Besides the sun fluctuating in size out of proportion to their distance (up to and including increasing in size between Uranus and Neptune)?

(July 18, 2018 at 9:54 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: How is it nonsense, there are extensive clouds in saturn’s atmosphere just like there are in Jupiter’s.

Also, just as you can see a beautiful sunset from an airplane on earth, it doesn’t require a surface for there to be a beautiful view of the sun from a planet.

True, but outside Saturn's rings hardly counts as being in Saturn's atmosphere.

And no, you don't need a surface to see a beautiful view of the sun, but it certainly helps for the sort of photos we come to expect from the first four images, especially if we want to send a probe to someplace like Jupiter to see what the view is like from there.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.

[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]

I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
Reply
#17
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 18, 2018 at 10:00 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(July 18, 2018 at 9:54 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: How so?   Perhaps some of the surface features are slightly questionable and may nor be most typical of what would be encountered on each of those bodies, but what do you think is distinctly wrong?

Besides the sun fluctuating in size out of proportion to their distance (up to and including increasing in size between Uranus and Neptune)?

The apparent size of the sun in an rendering/painting depends on the angle of view the painting/renderings are meant to depict, no?  

Without knowing how wide the field of view is meant to be, it would be impossible to say whether the sun is depicted too big or too small?

The only painting in the thread that gives an clear indication of its intended field of view is one from the surface of Pluto.  Here the visual size of Charon in the sky tells the field of view.  Charon should substandard roughly 3 degrees of arc when viewed from surface of Pluto. The sun should substand 0.01 degrees.  So the sun looks distinctly too large compared to Charon from the perspective of Pluto.  However, the apparent large size of the sun in the painting can still be chalked up to glare.  Even if the sun would almost be star like in size when viewed from the distance of Pluto, it would still be a blindingly bright point of light, almost like staring down a laser pointer.  Staring at it would still damage your retina.  It would certainly be haloed in glare.  So it is still hard to say the image is truly inaccurate.

(July 18, 2018 at 10:00 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: True, but outside Saturn's rings hardly counts as being in Saturn's atmosphere.

And no, you don't need a surface to see a beautiful view of the sun, but it certainly helps for the sort of photos we come to expect from the first four images, especially if we want to send a probe to someplace like Jupiter to see what the view is like from there.

Yes, but clouds seems to be depicted as floating beneath the ring, which is as it should be.   The ring would be an exoatmospheric feature, a background to the image of high clouds when viewed from inside saturn’s atmosphere.

The painting also captures the sun dogs, which one would expect from refraction caused by water and ammonia crystals in high Saturn atmosphere.  That is a nice touch.
Reply
#18
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 18, 2018 at 9:54 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: ...But what do you think is distinctly wrong and impossible?

Clouds in Mars atmosphere?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
Reply
#19
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 18, 2018 at 9:00 am)popeyespappy Wrote:
(July 17, 2018 at 10:08 pm)A Theist Wrote: Those pics would be interesting to see. At what distances are they?

Curiosity's first color shots of a sunset on Mars.

[Image: pia19401_fig1_thumb.gif]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-new...180955226/

That's pretty damn awesome! What amazes me sometimes that when I see pictures of the landscape of Mars is how similar it looks to some areas here on Earth.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"

[Image: freddy_03.jpg]

Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
Reply
#20
RE: What the Sun looks like from the other planets
(July 18, 2018 at 12:45 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(July 18, 2018 at 9:54 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: ...But what do you think is distinctly wrong and impossible?

Clouds in Mars atmosphere?


Martian atmosphere have high wispy water vapor clouds.   Over most of the mars they are too thin and wispy to show up strongly when looking down from satellites above against back drop of Martian  surface, but they show up clearly from photos look up from below taken by landers and rovers.   Dense, massive but localized cloud formations conspicuous from orbit are often seen around the waist and summits big, very tall Martian volcanos near Tharsis.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  So, what's up with airline food? And other bad jokes. Mechaghostman2 16 1359 January 23, 2020 at 8:36 pm
Last Post: Magilla
  Sun Bond, Planet Up..... Brian37 0 311 December 3, 2018 at 8:32 pm
Last Post: Brian37
  Will the sun explode? Foxaèr 35 2961 August 31, 2018 at 10:36 am
Last Post: Jehanne
  Seven temperate terrestrial planets around the nearby ultracool dwarf star TRAPPIST-1 pocaracas 52 7105 February 25, 2017 at 1:26 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  Mercury transit begins in little over an hour... for those who have the sun up :) Alex K 16 2333 May 10, 2016 at 12:57 am
Last Post: Martian Mermaid
Star Milky Way Could Contain 100 Million Planets with Complex Life MountainsWinAgain 3 1256 June 1, 2014 at 7:15 pm
Last Post: Jackalope
  Full Sun - Half Moon? Jiggerj 30 6990 October 27, 2013 at 11:13 am
Last Post: Captain Colostomy
  This is What Global Warming Looks Like Minimalist 62 20488 August 30, 2012 at 1:46 am
Last Post: ib.me.ub
  NASA - 41 New Transiting Planets in Kepler Field of View Jackalope 11 7900 August 28, 2012 at 11:58 am
Last Post: Cyberman
  Of Round Arks and other bullshit Minimalist 2 1040 January 6, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Last Post: Minimalist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)