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20 books considered the worst
#21
RE: 20 books considered the worst
This is definitely one of the 20 worst 'worst-of' lists I've ever read.
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#22
RE: 20 books considered the worst
(July 20, 2018 at 10:59 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: This is definitely one of the 20 worst 'worst-of' lists I've ever read.

Agreed.
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#23
RE: 20 books considered the worst
(July 20, 2018 at 10:32 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(July 20, 2018 at 7:22 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are classics on the list. Making teens read them isn't really a reason cause we were forced to read a lot of classics that could be on there if that was the reason. Maybe it was the ones the author of the list didn't like.

Any damn Jane Austen book should be on there. I hate her stuff. I seriously wanted to throw Emma and I Pride and Prejudice was just as childish that I couldn't get one chapter in.

I appreciate Jane Austen’s elegant and minutely observant writing style even if the stories bore me. But literature is not all about the story.

I greatly enjoy Patrick O’brien’s Aubrey Maturin series of napoleonic nautical adventure novels both for the story and the writing style.  Despite the radically different stories and settings I can see how Patrick o’brien Imitated Jane austen’s Writing style.  The writing style absolutely converted the obrey maturin novels from run-of-the-mill swashbuckling paperbacks unlikely to be read more than 5-10 years after publication to richly textured historical novels that probably will remain classics of the genera for a very long time.

At least with Grapes of Wrath, 1984, Brave New World, etc I could delve into the different aspects of hidden meaning or how it relates to today. With 1984 and Brave New World you can compare too much government to too little or compare it to America now. Grapes of Wrath had imagery that was so well placed it placed a "crown of thorns" on a preachers' head as he was beat up and then reborn a better person or how the milk of the young mother that was meant for a child that would never live gave life to an old man. I mean they had substance. Emma... it had a girl trying to set up her friend then getting upset when he fell for her. I can't and don't want to delve into that.
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#24
RE: 20 books considered the worst
(July 20, 2018 at 12:19 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:
Quote:....
To Kill A Mockingbird, Harper Lee
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Moby Dick, Herman Melville
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For Whom the Bell Tolls, Ernest Hemingway
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The Bell Jar, Sylvia Plath
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Worst?  Really?
Dodgy  Swear

Maybe they were using "worst" as a synonym for "overrated."
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#25
RE: 20 books considered the worst
Since they didn't give the criteria for their list, it's really hard to agree or disagree with any of the selections, except for "Twilight," which was just fucking bad at any and every level.

I've read and enjoyed many if the titles listed, but I have only a single criteria for fiction. Entertainment value. A lot of writing fuck ups can be forgiven, as long as the story entertains. The greatest writer of prose can bore you to tears but if you can tell a good story...
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#26
RE: 20 books considered the worst
(July 20, 2018 at 11:29 am)mlmooney89 Wrote:
(July 20, 2018 at 10:32 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: I appreciate Jane Austen’s elegant and minutely observant writing style even if the stories bore me. But literature is not all about the story.

I greatly enjoy Patrick O’brien’s Aubrey Maturin series of napoleonic nautical adventure novels both for the story and the writing style.  Despite the radically different stories and settings I can see how Patrick o’brien Imitated Jane austen’s Writing style.  The writing style absolutely converted the obrey maturin novels from run-of-the-mill swashbuckling paperbacks unlikely to be read more than 5-10 years after publication to richly textured historical novels that probably will remain classics of the genera for a very long time.

At least with Grapes of Wrath, 1984, Brave New World, etc I could delve into the different aspects of hidden meaning or how it relates to today. With 1984 and Brave New World you can compare too much government to too little or compare it to America now. Grapes of Wrath had imagery that was so well placed it placed a "crown of thorns" on a preachers' head as he was beat up and then reborn a better person or how the milk of the young mother that was meant for a child that would never live gave life to an old man. I mean they had substance. Emma... it had a girl trying to set up her friend then getting upset when he fell for her. I can't and don't want to delve into that.

I think there is substance in minute and insightful observation of the people’s environment, motivation, emotions and psychology in worlds not clearly related to the present, even if they seem to be engaged in mundane, trivial or frivolous activities. I think there is value in simply trying to reconstruct in the mind as completely as we can what we would see and how we would think if we were born and raised in a different age and place, and not just evaluate everything and everywhere that might be shown to us solipsistically from the narrow perspective of the here and the present.
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#27
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TKAMB? Really? 🤨

Gone Girl and The Hunger Games should be on that list.
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#28
RE: 20 books considered the worst
(July 19, 2018 at 11:16 pm)Kit Wrote: Any of your favorites make the list?

Quote:The Twilight Series, Stephanie Meyer
Fifty Shades of Grey, E.L. James
The DaVinci Code, Dan Brown
To Kill A Mockingbird, Harper Lee
A Confederacy of Dunces, John Kennedy Toole
The Red Tent, Anita Diamant
Moby Dick, Herman Melville
Jude the Obscure, Thomas Hardy
The Road, Cormac McCarthy
Into the Wild, John Krakauer
Artemis Fowl, Eoin Colfer
For Whom the Bell Tolls, Ernest Hemingway
Cold Mountain, Charles Frasier
The Secret, Rhonda Byrne
The Bell Jar, Sylvia Plath
Eat, Pray, Love, Elizabeth Gilbert
Year of Wonders, Geraldine Brooks
Moon People, Dale Courtney
The Fault In Our Stars, John Green
A Reliable Wife, Robert Goolrick

https://diy.crafty.house/worst-books-of-...f-all-time

Fuck that list.

Confederacy of dunces is hilarious and bizzare. It's a classic.

The Road is brilliant

Into the Wild is a great book.

That list is straight up trolling.

(July 20, 2018 at 11:30 am)Astreja Wrote:
(July 20, 2018 at 12:19 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Worst?  Really?
Dodgy  Swear

Maybe they were using "worst" as a synonym for "overrated."

That is what they for sure mean. But that list is out if their fucking skulls. I'd be real curious to see their favorite books.

(July 20, 2018 at 7:22 am)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm not sure why there are classics on the list. Making teens read them isn't really a reason cause we were forced to read a lot of classics that could be on there if that was the reason. Maybe it was the ones the author of the list didn't like.

Any damn Jane Austen book should be on there. I hate her stuff. I seriously wanted to throw Emma and I Pride and Prejudice was just as childish that I couldn't get one chapter in.

But without pride and prejudice you'd have no "Pride and prejudice and zombies" the story of ladies trying to find love in the 1800s while also killing the fuck out of zombies
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#29
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Whew! My book wasn't listed! But, maybe it's like People Magazines 50 most beautiful people. I'm 51 again! Are these people blind!!!
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#30
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Gulliver's Travels NOT being on a 'worst' list is in itself a clear indication that the list is trolling.
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