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"Paul" What's Bullshit and What Isn't?
#11
RE: "Paul" What's Bullshit and What Isn't?
You are a believer, RR.  I do hold that against you.  But again, none of this stuff is news except apparently to you.

Entire epistles are fraudulent but you don't seem to care.  You have this vision of a saint and you are not going to give it up for any reason.

You should pay attention to which phrases are claimed to be interpolated and why.  But you can't admit that it ever happened so it is pointless for you.

You're a bullshit defender, RR.  Accept your role in life.
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RE: "Paul" What's Bullshit and What Isn't?
(August 8, 2018 at 1:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You are a believer, RR.  I do hold that against you.  But again, none of this stuff is news except apparently to you.

And most scholars according to the article.

Quote:Entire epistles are fraudulent but you don't seem to care.  You have this vision of a saint and you are not going to give it up for any reason.

You should pay attention to which phrases are claimed to be interpolated and why.  But you can't admit that it ever happened so it is pointless for you.

You're a bullshit defender, RR.  Accept your role in life.

This didn’t point to any paticular parts of Paul, which it was claiming was an interpolation. And the reasons it did give where circular and unfalsifiable. And I do care, but I am going to ask for reasons and evidence, when you make wild claims.
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#13
RE: "Paul" What's Bullshit and What Isn't?
You'll never change and I won't waste any more time arguing with a fundie.

For people who are interested in pauline frauds let's do this:


Here's Richard Carrier on two of the more obvious frauds.  Note that Carrier also treats this "paul" guy as a real person which is also debateable but for now we can use the observation that someone wrote this shit out originally ( probably Marcion ) and still acknowledge that others came along later and changed it.

http://richardcarrier.blogspot.com/2011/...tions.html

Quote:In the New Testament, at least two passages have been interpolated into the letters of Paul: 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 and 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Today I'll present the evidence for this conclusion that most experts have long known about, but most laymen never hear.
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#14
RE: "Paul" What's Bullshit and What Isn't?
If they needed to "change" the text, and it wasn't for duplicitous reasons, you'd think they would include it as some sort of appendix along with the reasons for the change.

You gotta have some real good fire-retardant underwear to be changing god's words.
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#16
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That's okay.  It comes with the territory.

He's still just a guy who believes in fairy tales.
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#17
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As with most "holy" writings, I assume the bullshit parts are the bits between the covers.
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#18
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"In the beginning" = "Once upon a time".
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(August 8, 2018 at 6:16 pm)Fireball Wrote: "In the beginning" = "Once upon a time".

At least moat stories that begin with "once upon a time" make a certain amount of sense.
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#20
RE: "Paul" What's Bullshit and What Isn't?
(August 8, 2018 at 6:16 pm)Fireball Wrote: "In the beginning" = "Once upon a time".

But no one lives happily ever after!
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