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The Testimony of Nathan
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The Testimony of Nathan
I had mentioned this in passing in another thread, but I believe it needs a thread of its own. There's a slim volume out on Amazon.com with the title The Testimony of Nathan Son of Isaac Concerning Jesus of Nazareth translated from the Greek by Ben Armhardt. It has been tentatively dated to the eleventh century but purports to be written by a contemporary of Jesus who debunks certain of the miracles and the resurrection. If authentic--i.e. a copy of something that was actually written in the first century--it would really do in Christianity. However, it would also do in the mythicists as well. I'm still trying to figure out what to make of it. Any textual critics in the house?
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RE: The Testimony of Nathan
Quote:If authentic

"IF"

Big "if" there.
Xtians invented lots of bullshit.  There are "reports" allegedly written by Pilate to the Emperors Tiberius and Claudius ( yes, someone thought it was Claudius!) about the trial.  All phony.
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RE: The Testimony of Nathan
(August 28, 2018 at 12:00 pm)Caligvla XXI Wrote: I had mentioned this in passing in another thread, but I believe it needs a thread of its own. There's a slim volume out on Amazon.com with the title The Testimony of Nathan Son of Isaac Concerning Jesus of Nazareth translated from the Greek by Ben Armhardt. It has been tentatively dated to the eleventh century but purports to be written by a contemporary of Jesus who debunks certain of the miracles and the resurrection. If authentic--i.e. a copy of something that was actually written in the first century--it would really do in Christianity. However, it would also do in the mythicists as well. I'm still trying to figure out what to make of it. Any textual critics in the house?

No need we have the Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus. Several of them. Turns out kid jebus was a total dick. Talk about the terrible twos.
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RE: The Testimony of Nathan
Hmmm.... Dodgy

My memory isn't the best, 80's RAM. And I deja vu.
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RE: The Testimony of Nathan
(August 28, 2018 at 12:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "IF"

Big "if" there.
Xtians invented lots of bullshit.  There are "reports" allegedly written by Pilate to the Emperors Tiberius and Claudius ( yes, someone thought it was Claudius!) about the trial.  All phony.

The divine Tiberio is well alive and keeping us up. Long live!
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RE: The Testimony of Nathan
(August 28, 2018 at 12:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Xtians invented lots of bullshit.

So a Christian would invent a story about a Jew who debunks the miracles of Jesus and the resurrection? There's also some X-rated stuff in there that I seriously can't see as having been written by any Christian.
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Sure, if it meant "debunking" their theological, ideological, or political rivals.  Similarly, when do you think christians got super prude, the eleventh century, the first century....or the sixteenth century?
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Xtians invented stories about jesus murdering his playmates.  So, don't presume too much.

Besides, a Google search of that did not exactly reveal a wealth of information.  Putting the title into quotation marks gets about 20 hits mainly from people trying to sell the book.  Real scholars don't seem to be taking it very seriously.
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RE: The Testimony of Nathan
(August 28, 2018 at 12:00 pm)Caligvla XXI Wrote: I had mentioned this in passing in another thread, but I believe it needs a thread of its own. There's a slim volume out on Amazon.com with the title The Testimony of Nathan Son of Isaac Concerning Jesus of Nazareth translated from the Greek by Ben Armhardt. It has been tentatively dated to the eleventh century but purports to be written by a contemporary of Jesus who debunks certain of the miracles and the resurrection. If authentic--i.e. a copy of something that was actually written in the first century--it would really do in Christianity. However, it would also do in the mythicists as well. I'm still trying to figure out what to make of it. Any textual critics in the house?

Nothing in Wikipedia about it; maybe it's a sham (like Jesus!)
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I don't care!
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