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Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
#11
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
Aggressive evangelical Christians are some of the most annoying people you can be around. Some churches put a lot of pressure on their followers to constantly witness to people. I admit I did this to a few friends when I was a Christian.
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#12
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
Well I don't want to do this, but it's likely that few of you clicked on that Pastebin list, so I'll just put it here. See previous warning:
Quote:That he’s special

Dragons

Magic

Harry Potter

Ghosts

Elvis never died/faked his death

Michael Jackson faked his death

Non-avian dinosaurs never went extinct and that birds are not dinosaurs 

Superheroes and that he is one


Spells and he can cast them

Cruses and he can place them on others 

Transformation; he thinks he can transform into, say a T-rex, Velociraptor, etc 

Power Rangers and that he is one 

Half human, half alien beings and he's one of them; "I'm not from this world."

Were-Animals and that he can transform into one, such as a werewolf

Human Genetic Modification

Spirit Animals, such as the spirit of the T-rex, wolf, panther, etc

Super Intelligence; "I'm smarter than you humans"

Super Strength; "I'm stronger than you" 

Skylanders

Monsters

An afterlife

That he is sent from God

That atheists just hate god, are jealous of God, his creation, etc  :roll: 

That atheists are bad people and they can’t be good (Thinks it’s a lie.)

Belief is equal to knowledge 

Everything he believes in is not a hoax (Special pleading)

Demons and that he will fight them

Angels

Digimon; "Respect my Digimon!" 

Pokemon

Dimensional Travel and Dimensions 

Time Travel

Doctor Who; he believes in him, he thinks he’s a real person and has seen him since early childhood. 
Not to mention he thinks he saw my future. It's full of hate, apparently. 
Also thinks I need to believe in him. 

Immortality and he is one: "I'm an immortal" 

Anything his father says

Dimensional Agelessness; he only ages in this one, he says

Dimensional Forms and that this one is just his "earth form" or whatever


Potions 

Human vs immortals dichotomy 

Apocalypse of mankind; zombie ones, mostly. I hear him talking about it on the bus with his friend. 
That and his comments about it, such as “There is no hope for you humans." 
and "The world will end in August 2018."

Absolute power; "I can do anything I want."

Alchemy

Immortal Science

Creationism; "Who created the world? God did." (Despite the fact that it's not a who, but a 
what. )

That most criticisms of what he believes in are the result of jealousy or some other emotion (bulverism) 

Bigfoot

Megalodon

Yugioh (The Shadow Realm)

Loch-Ness Monster


Some other misc stuff that is likely important. 

This is what he thinks others should believe in: 

God; “He knows you.” “He loves you.”
Superheros
Doctor Who; “He knows your future.”
Anything that he believes in, it seems

This is what he does when others press him for evidence:

Shifts burdens of proof; "That's what you need to find out." 

Ad hoc; "It's all top secret." "I can't because of my x or y law." "Why do you need evidence?"
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#13
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
Quote:This continued all year, until summer vacation, where I basically said "Fuck you." to him.

You have a lot of patience, young man.
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#14
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
Okay, we get it, the guy wasn't up to stuff. However, there aren't any atheist; saying God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing he does. Since the creation of the world, God's eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, so people are without excuse. Did you actually think that the nature of man which is at enmity with God, would go down without a fight? One defense for this nature is to wrap itself in a veneer of intellectualism, but in doing so, the person still knows God exists because of their conscience which is an integral part of their spiritual component (made in the image of God). Created spiritual being once created, never cease to exist; aka, the angels watched God laid out the foundation of the earth 4.5 bya, and as such, will always know of God forever.
Atheist Credo: An universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#15
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
And the lunatic fringe checks in to say "hi."
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#16
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
(September 8, 2018 at 7:57 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Okay, we get it, the guy wasn't up to stuff. However, there aren't any atheist; saying God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing he does. Since the creation of the world, God's eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, so people are without excuse. Did you actually think that the nature of man which is at enmity with God, would go down without a fight? One defense for this nature is to wrap itself in a veneer of intellectualism, but in doing so, the person still knows God exists because of their conscience which is an integral part of their spiritual component (made in the image of God). Created spiritual being once created, never cease to exist; aka, the angels watched God laid out the foundation of the earth 4.5 bya, and as such, will always know of God forever.

Gnostic ignorance is a thing, ya know? It's the worst kind of ignorance, because it's the kind of ignorance that refuses to adjust itself to the truth.
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#17
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
(September 8, 2018 at 2:09 am)Haipule Wrote: Your young: we are all fucked up geezers! And we are WAY SMARTER then you!

Arrogance is not Christ-like my friend.


Quote:Haipule

You are not going to find truth in science, theology or any other MAN MADE fucking bullshit! MAYBE some, but that's it! 

Assuming religion or your beliefs are is also not man-made and does contain any sort of truth.


Quote:Your ONLY truth is your own life! And that, regardless of any theologian or scientist! What? You got something else?

Truth is whatever can be shown to be true. It's what the facts are and if don't want to show me any facts, then don't force me to believe.

Quote:Get this right here; science will NEVER disprove God! God will NEVER disprove observed science--EVER!

It's not supposed to. It's a way of looking at empirical reality. It is the best method so far for doing so. God is nothing than metaphysical what if, only seemingly exist in minds of humans, created as an anthropization of nature.

(September 8, 2018 at 7:57 pm)snowtracks Wrote: However, there aren't any atheist; saying God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing he does.

Not all atheists are like that. I would say, however, that we know your god (whoever that may be), if it is defined in a way that is impossible, your God does not exist.  

Quote:Since the creation of the world, God's eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, so people are without excuse.
 
God didn't say that. Human scribes in the Roman Empire said that and their words are now being interpreted as speaking for him. You just assume that this god created the world as is, as an apriori assumption. The evidence for your god in this world is nothing more than human confirmation bias, selection bias, and interpretations of events in the world. It's rather weird that the events that happen in the world that attributed to god, are same things that would have happened anyway.
Quote: Did you actually think that the nature of man which is at enmity with God

Prove that with facts, please.
Quote:One defense for this nature is to wrap itself in a veneer of intellectualism, but in doing so, the person still knows God exists because of their conscience which is an integral part of their spiritual component (made in the image of God).

This nothing than an assumption to play willful ignorance. How do you know that your god created our conscience and was responsible for the creation of our " spiritual component"? For all, I and you must admit, that it could equally Allah in the form of your god, aliens or one huge hallucination. The thing is you can and don't know that! You are assuming it on faith, an unreasonable belief. It's also nothing more than saying "SHILL!!!" to someone whos refuting your band of conspiracy theory.
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#18
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
(September 8, 2018 at 7:57 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Okay, we get it, the guy wasn't up to stuff. However, there aren't any atheist; saying God doesn't exist isn't the same as believing he does. Since the creation of the world, God's eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, so people are without excuse.

No excuse needed.  Let the boogyman do his worst.  Oooooh, so scared now.


(September 8, 2018 at 7:57 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Did you actually think that the nature of man which is at enmity with God, would go down without a fight? One defense for this nature is to wrap itself in a veneer of intellectualism, but in doing so, the person still knows God exists because of their conscience

Uh.  Wut?


(September 8, 2018 at 7:57 pm)snowtracks Wrote: which is an integral part of their spiritual component (made in the image of God). Created spiritual being once created, never cease to exist; aka, the angels watched God laid out the foundation of the earth 4.5 bya, and as such, will always know of God forever.

Beliefs based on wishes.  Assertions based on nothing at all.  

No sale.
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#19
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
(September 8, 2018 at 2:09 am)Haipule Wrote: And we are WAY SMARTER then you!

Says the guy who doesn’t know the difference between then and than.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

0/10

Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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#20
RE: Encounter with a 19 year old man child theist
(September 8, 2018 at 10:08 am)ATeenAtheist Wrote:
(September 8, 2018 at 12:38 am)Joods Wrote: Meh. Let him have his sky daddy. You have reality on your side and that's all that matters. Sometimes battles don't have to be fought, but rather walked away from.

I gave up on him, so I'm leaving his moronic beliefs alone for now.

When I was a teenager, I was a Christian fundamentalist and I used to argue with atheists, also (on alt.atheism, where it all started!!), and now, look at me, I'm an atheist!
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