Why teach Creationism over Science

[Welsh cake]

Those who advocate teaching creation aren't opposing science, we are opposing the theory of evolution and the claim that it has been scientifically proved to be true.

You are wilfully ignorant of the controversy that envelops the ongoing dispute, theologians and proponents of creation science and intelligent design seek to corrupt the findings and discoveries of scientific fields such as cosmology, biology and thermodynamics to support their dogmatic religious views, its bad enough consensus can be misled by political motives but what you people are doing is insane, you're imposing your worldview and culture onto a quest for knowledge and consequently risk undermining the entire education system and body of scientific enquiry!

By your own omission I can conclude you have no idea what scientific theories actually are. You are talking about the word colloquially which means opinion or assumption, except we're talking about science now, that’s not how scientific models are established from explanations of any particular objective verifiable observation of naturally occurring processes and/or phenomena in nature. We're looking at an explanation to the biodiversity of life here. A theory must be based on the observable, verifiable, testable so that we may draw predictions from it. If we could observe or detect or interact with your creator concept and he demonstrated that he could poof us into existence without evolving over time there'd be no debate – God would be fact not fiction. We do not require proof for evolution theory within natural sciences, scientists already have the validation of the experimental observation in question. Also I suspect you have little to no understanding that evolution is both a current theory and a fact because we have empirical evidence of life-forms changing and developing traits over generations, not to mention it is universally accepted because of said framework's explanatory power. Evolution as a fact is not a claim to absolute certainty, it is an acknowledgement to a high and robust degree of certainty that we have a scientific model with predictive power that can withstand scrutiny.

You clearly don't understand what the term "current theory" is. You haven't presented an alternative or competing theory. You don’t have a model of reality that challenges evolutionary theory with its overwhelming evidence. Don’t even joke with us. You're not even fucking close. You simply assert there is an unseen uncreated creator force that has no experimental or empirical data to support it. All you have is an idea that cannot withstand moderate scrutiny and overwhelming insufferable undying ignorance not to appreciate that. Creationists, like many apologists affirm you can't even go about conducting a test for identifying or drawing a correlation back to god. You have no theory, you barely have a hypothesis, broadly you have a non-answer that prohibits actual investigation of the real world but extensive study of one single collection of religious text, laughable absurd, that contradicts itself over and over again, and no independent accounts to back up its extraordinary claims.

Here is a site that shows that creation can be supported scientifically:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

Bullshit. We have the application and concept of falsifiability. We can distinguish between science and pseudoscience by testing theories to see whether they are scientific or not and stand up as a framework.

So either put up or shut up. Falsify creation. What would a reality that was not created by a designer look like? How would DNA and genetic information come about without a supernatural deity?

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

Those who advocate teaching creation aren't opposing science, we are opposing the theory of evolution and the claim that it has been scientifically proved to be true. Here is a site that shows that creation can be supported scientifically:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

I know it's difficult for you and some others to accept, but evolution is science.
Among scientists, it's not even a controversial topic and hasn't been for a long time.

It's not even just evolutionary science (which is a thing) but also all the science that disputes the genesis account - including all the sciences that point to an old earth, old universe, and numerous other topics that include just about every major scientific field because many of them are interrelated.

As such, creationism is in opposition to science. It's replacing knowledge with willing ignorance about how the world works.

[Thor]

Those who advocate teaching creation aren't opposing science, we are opposing the theory of evolution and the claim that it has been scientifically proved to be true. Here is a site that shows that creation can be supported scientifically:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

Oh, yes! The first place I look when I want scientific information is answersingenesis!

[Jaysyn]

Those who advocate teaching creation aren't opposing science, we are opposing the theory of evolution and the claim that it has been scientifically proved to be true. Here is a site that shows that creation can be supported scientifically:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

Oh, yes! The first place I look when I want scientific information is answersingenesis!

It would be hilarious if Adrian modded the forum to redirect all answersingenesis links to Westboro Baptist Church.

[Tiberius]

we are opposing the theory of evolution and the claim that it has been scientifically proved to be true.

Exactly who makes that claim? Certainly no scientists I've ever come across. The entire idea of "scientific proof" is ludicrous. Science doesn't prove things. Science looks at the observable evidence (the facts), and produces testable ideas as to what is going on (the theories). The more observable evidence, the better the theory becomes (as it changes to accommodate the new data).

As it stands, there is no evidence that contradicts the theory of evolution (yet), and all available evidence supports it. Conversely, there is a lot of evidence that contradicts the ideas of creationism, and anything that can be used to support it can be used to support evolution as well. In science, we go with the theory that works the best, which in this case is evolution.

[thesummerqueen]

Let's just be honest - people don't like evolution because they don't want to imagine themselves rising out of the slime to eventually become hairy ape-like creatures who then shed their fur and began wearing Brooks Brothers and carrying Coach purses instead. I do seem to recall one fundamentalist saying "who wants to imagine they came from a newt?"

To which I say "I happen to like newts. They eat bugs. I'd be more worried if I descended from Newt Gingrich."

[Thor]

It would be hilarious if Adrian modded the forum to redirect all answersingenesis links to Westboro Baptist Church.

That would be pretty good! But it would be even better if answersingenesis was linked to this: http://www.crapmachine.com/

[Minimalist]

I do seem to recall one fundamentalist saying "who wants to imagine they came from a newt?"

They're happier thinking they came from fucking dirt?



BTW, they don't want to 'teach' creationism....they want to preach it.

[Znedrow4]

It bugs me that im always hearing about people wanting to teach creationism in place of science. First of all it is false. Second it is not even taught as a science in church it is taught in the same way they teach history. They dont try to teach you how things work they just lay out a series of events for you. So them replacing science with creationism is like replacing science with american history.

Those who advocate teaching creation aren't opposing science, we are opposing the theory of evolution and the claim that it has been scientifically proved to be true. Here is a site that shows that creation can be supported scientifically:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

believing something is true can not be supported scientifically without physical evidence. the bible does not count because the claims in it can not be backed up with scientific proof.

[Anomalocaris]

The bible cuts no ice with science. Those who seeks to inject bible into science is for bible, and against science.