Lying for God

[robvalue]

Allah really needs to get his butt down here and sort this mess out.

[Mystic]

[Minimalist]

Take for example, the fact I am afflicted by madness to a great degree

For once you said something right.

[Mystic]

Okay. Very nice hiding that verse in English between the lines.

But the word "like" is used to say "explicitly" that this is an example given with a tree.
How does that relate to saying that "a tree" is not actually a "tree"?

This is a rule you put, there is no reason to assume Allah (swt) will always say "this is a parable here"... because not eloquent. If something in many places is proven to be a parable, then perhaps most of it's uses in Quran, God meant in that way.

It's like the verses clarifying what is meant by disbelief, that is some verses are explicit in that the context is if the truth has reached or been shown, then God's wrath, where as he makes exception to those without power (weakness) to believe based on proof or reject it, and that their trial is different, and God is forgiving merciful.

He doesn't need to repeat the exception everywhere nor clarification, it's not eloquent to do so.

The same with parables. It would be highly uneloquent, in that he states, and "and that was a parable there". It's insult to our intelligence as well.

Clarification is only needed once or two times.

[WinterHold]

[Minimalist]

Moses is a fictional character you two.  The "tree" can be a bush, a sequoia, or a whole fucking forest if the author wants it to be.

Both of you need to grow the fuck up.

[purplepurpose]

Moses is a fictional character you two.  The "tree" can be a bush, a sequoia, or a whole fucking forest if the author wants it to be.

Both of you need to grow the fuck up.

It's badass to carry such "acid" in your head. It's much easier to accept logical worldview. Those two are badass even if they talk nonsense.

[WinterHold]

Okay. Very nice hiding that verse in English between the lines.

But the word "like" is used to say "explicitly" that this is an example given with a tree.
How does that relate to saying that "a tree" is not actually a "tree"?

This is a rule you put, there is no reason to assume Allah (swt) will always say "this is a parable here"... because not eloquent. If something in many places is proven to be a parable, then perhaps most of it's uses in Quran, God meant in that way.

It's like the verses clarifying what is meant by disbelief, that is some verses are explicit in that the context is if the truth has reached or been shown, then God's wrath, where as he makes exception to those without power (weakness) to believe based on proof or reject it, and that their trial is different, and God is forgiving merciful.

He doesn't need to repeat the exception everywhere nor clarification, it's not eloquent to do so.

The same with parables. It would be highly uneloquent, in that he states, and "and that was a parable there". It's insult to our intelligence as well.

Clarification is only needed once or two times.

No. When a God speaks, I expect him to be very obvious in displaying his message, I also expect every sentence to have a meaning.
Symbolism is cool when a Satanic gang commit crimes. It's also cool in a teenager poetry journal. But it's not a respected way for a God to speak. A God demanding all creatures to worship him must be obvious.

He is a God. He can repeat clarification everywhere, and still be obvious and eloquent. And that's what the Quran is.

[Mystic]

God has said in Quran he spoke of all (types) of parables, and emphasized by these parables, he will guide some, and will not misguide by them but the trangressors.

I wish you luck Atlas.

[Astreja]

It's not excuses, I can't tell difference between an Angel or Jinn that is deceiving me, I can't even discern the holy spirit from false claimants of that,  this is part of why I am so ill.  The holy book however has brought me back to reality and realizing I have to practice rituals like five daily prayers, recite Quran, and also other Du'as taught by Islam, and inshallah, I be able to move forward in the journey.

At this point,  I can't tell the difference between demon, devils, Angels, or spirits of Prophets or deceivers, I can't discern the truth. My 6th sense is corrupt.

It doesn't sound like your religion is serving you very well at all, MK. If you're in such a state of confusion, rituals are just going to make it worse.