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If I were in his shoes I too would refuse to prescribe abortion pills, for abortion purposes. Even if I wasnt a religious person, there are plenty of atheists who are also pro life, and this to me is a human thing, not a religion thing. I want no part in taking a human life, and if that means getting sued or losing my job, so be it.
With that being said, if a woman told me her baby had already died and the pill would simply be used to get the already dead baby out, I would take her word for it. As a pharmacist he should know that particular medication is used for abortion *as well as* in the case of a miscarriage. Someone may or may not lie about it, but at that point it is out of my hands. Charity is an important part of our beliefs, and I would believe a woman who told me she had lost her baby.
Shame on this man for making a woman who just lost 2 babies have to deal with this.
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October 18, 2018 at 12:23 pm (This post was last modified: October 18, 2018 at 12:24 pm by Angrboda.)
(October 18, 2018 at 10:55 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(October 18, 2018 at 6:12 am)Joods Wrote: You asked; why did she decide to wait until the weekend? Well.... You answered that in your own bolded part.
However, that doesn't have anything to do with what the pharmacist said. And, as stated earlier - the pharmacist refused to send the script to another local pharmacy for it to be filled.
Pharmacies don't have to do anything, some offer to transfer as a courtesy, It's you to your doctor to either send the info to the pharmacy, or give you a form which you take yourself to any available pharmacy.
Quote:PART 1306 — PRESCRIPTIONS
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LISTED IN SCHEDULES III, IV, and V
§1306.25 Transfer between pharmacies of prescription information for Schedules III, IV, and V controlled substances for refill purposes.
(a) The transfer of original prescription information for a controlled substance listed in Schedule III, IV, or V for the purpose of refill dispensing is permissible between pharmacies on a one-time basis only. However, pharmacies electronically sharing a real-time, online database may transfer up to the maximum refills permitted by law and the prescriber's authorization.
(b) Transfers are subject to the following requirements:
(1) The transfer must be communicated directly between two licensed pharmacists.
(2) The transferring pharmacist must do the following:
(i) Write the word “VOID” on the face of the invalidated prescription; for electronic prescriptions, information that the prescription has been transferred must be added to the prescription record.
(ii) Record on the reverse of the invalidated prescription the name, address, and DEA registration number of the pharmacy to which it was transferred and the name of the pharmacist receiving the prescription information; for electronic prescriptions, such information must be added to the prescription record.
(iii) Record the date of the transfer and the name of the pharmacist transferring the information.
Maybe he just didn't want to go through the hassle for someone who isn't a regular customer?
Quote:"Meijer has received a letter from the ACLU regarding a complaint that one of our pharmacists inappropriately handled a refusal to fill a prescription. We have thoroughly investigated these allegations and while we cannot discuss this specific matter due to federal and state privacy laws that protect health information, we want all of our pharmacy customers to know of our practices regarding a pharmacists’ ability to refuse to fill a prescription.
"Our practice is based upon our overwhelming concern for patient safety and care, balanced with the need to accommodate the religious beliefs of our employees. A pharmacist may refuse to fill a prescription based upon religious beliefs. However, our procedure requires the prescription to then be filled by another pharmacist in the store. If no other pharmacist is available, the pharmacist must consult with the patient to arrange for the transfer of the prescription to another pharmacy that is convenient to them. This is consistent with the American Pharmacy Association and the Michigan Pharmacy Association Guidelines.
"A pharmacist who fails to follow this procedure, is in violation of our process.”
(October 18, 2018 at 6:12 am)Joods Wrote: You asked; why did she decide to wait until the weekend? Well.... You answered that in your own bolded part.
However, that doesn't have anything to do with what the pharmacist said. And, as stated earlier - the pharmacist refused to send the script to another local pharmacy for it to be filled.
Pharmacies don't have to do anything, some offer to transfer as a courtesy, It's you to your doctor to either send the info to the pharmacy, or give you a form which you take yourself to any available pharmacy.
Quote:PART 1306 — PRESCRIPTIONS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCESLISTED IN SCHEDULES III, IV, and V
§1306.25 Transfer between pharmacies of prescription information for Schedules III, IV, and V controlled substances for refill purposes.
(a) The transfer of original prescription information for a controlled substance listed in Schedule III, IV, or V for the purpose of refill dispensing is permissible between pharmacies on a one-time basis only. However, pharmacies electronically sharing a real-time, online database may transfer up to the maximum refills permitted by law and the prescriber's authorization.
(b) Transfers are subject to the following requirements:
(1) The transfer must be communicated directly between two licensed pharmacists.
(2) The transferring pharmacist must do the following:
(i) Write the word “VOID” on the face of the invalidated prescription; for electronic prescriptions, information that the prescription has been transferred must be added to the prescription record.
(ii) Record on the reverse of the invalidated prescription the name, address, and DEA registration number of the pharmacy to which it was transferred and the name of the pharmacist receiving the prescription information; for electronic prescriptions, such information must be added to the prescription record.
(iii) Record the date of the transfer and the name of the pharmacist transferring the information.
Maybe he just didn't want to go through the hassle for someone who isn't a regular customer?
This would have been credible information except that you made the assumption that misoprostol is a controlled substance. In some areas, it could even be sold over the counter under other names.
So your little legal blurb is irrelevant.
Quote:Mifepristone and Misoprostol are on the list of essential medicines of the WHO. They are not narcotics (like morphine or cocaine) or pleasure drugs (like ecstasy) or contraband or controlled substance. Misoprostol is registered in most countries and can also be used to prevent stomach ulcers.
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work. If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now. Yes, I DO want fries with that.
(October 18, 2018 at 10:55 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Pharmacies don't have to do anything, some offer to transfer as a courtesy, It's you to your doctor to either send the info to the pharmacy, or give you a form which you take yourself to any available pharmacy.
Maybe he just didn't want to go through the hassle for someone who isn't a regular customer?
This would have been credible information except that you made the assumption that misoprostol is a controlled substance. In some areas, it could even be sold over the counter under other names.
So your little legal blurb is irrelevant.
Quote:Mifepristone and Misoprostol are on the list of essential medicines of the WHO. They are not narcotics (like morphine or cocaine) or pleasure drugs (like ecstasy) or contraband or controlled substance. Misoprostol is registered in most countries and can also be used to prevent stomach ulcers.
Quote:Drug schedule: schedule 4 Available as: misoprostol is available as tablets What does it do? Misoprostol reduces the amount of acid secreted in your stomach and is therefore effective in the treatment and prevention of stomach and duodenal ulcers.
Quote:CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LISTED IN SCHEDULES III, IV, and V
§1306.25 Transfer between pharmacies of prescription information for Schedules III, IV, and V controlled substances for refill purposes.
October 18, 2018 at 1:23 pm (This post was last modified: October 18, 2018 at 1:26 pm by Joods.)
(October 18, 2018 at 1:06 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(October 18, 2018 at 12:34 pm)Joods Wrote: This would have been credible information except that you made the assumption that misoprostol is a controlled substance. In some areas, it could even be sold over the counter under other names.
Quote:Drug schedule: schedule 4 Available as: misoprostol is available as tablets What does it do? Misoprostol reduces the amount of acid secreted in your stomach and is therefore effective in the treatment and prevention of stomach and duodenal ulcers.
Quote:CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LISTED IN SCHEDULES III, IV, and V
§1306.25 Transfer between pharmacies of prescription information for Schedules III, IV, and V controlled substances for refill purposes.
LOL you're a dumb ass. Trying to pass off information that's intended for use by another continent as if it's relevant to United States Law is just dishonest. Did you really think I wasn't going to notice that your link was for South Africa?
Oh and a schedule four drug in the United States has at least some form of a narcotic in it. The drug in question does not.
Substances in this schedule have a low potential for abuse relative to substances listed in Schedule IV and consist primarily of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Examples of Schedule V substances include: cough preparations containing not more than 200 milligrams of codeine per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams (Robitussin AC, Phenergan with Codeine), and ezogabine.
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(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work. If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now. Yes, I DO want fries with that.
LOL you're a dumb ass. Trying to pass off information that's intended for use by another continent as if it's relevant to United States Law is just dishonest. Did you really think I wasn't going to notice that your link was for South Africa?
Oh and a schedule four drug in the United States has at least some form of a narcotic in it. The drug in question does not.
Substances in this schedule have a low potential for abuse relative to substances listed in Schedule IV and consist primarily of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Examples of Schedule V substances include: cough preparations containing not more than 200 milligrams of codeine per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams (Robitussin AC, Phenergan with Codeine), and ezogabine.
Regardless, it's still a prescription only drug.
My point was maybe the pharmacist not transferring the prescription was more so out of laziness than spite, because he eventually DID transfer the prescription.
I'm a bit confused about the us medical prescription system . Couldn't she have just "called in" the prescription to another pharmacy that would fulfill it, or does the first one "own" it in some way to make that impossible?
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(October 18, 2018 at 2:28 pm)pgrimes15 Wrote: I'm a bit confused about the us medical prescription system . Couldn't she have just "called in" the prescription to another pharmacy that would fulfill it, or does the first one "own" it in some way to make that impossible?
Prescriptions are usually sent to a pharmacist electronically. She probably never had possession of an actual script.
October 18, 2018 at 3:15 pm (This post was last modified: October 18, 2018 at 3:15 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
Quote:My point was maybe the pharmacist not transferring the prescription was more so out of laziness than spite, because he eventually DID transfer the prescription.
Yeah, that makes it better. A lazy pharmacist should make us all feel safer.
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