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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 11:05 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2018 at 11:13 am by Angrboda.)
(November 11, 2018 at 12:36 am)Jade-Green Stone Wrote: Got myself into a stupid analogy debate, which I am not going any farther with after my first comment telling this idiot it was a 'stupid analogy'.
I’m pro-life. I believe at life at conception. The argument that pro life is anti woman is just not true. Think about it this way. You’re driving down a dark road. You think you see someone standing in the street but you aren’t sure. Do you stop? Of course you do because there is a chance that could be a life. Same thing with a fetus.
ETA: Didn't realize this was not your argument when I posted. To quote Emily Litella, "Nevermind."
You stop because the object standing in the road might be a fully developed person who possesses the right to life and you have an obligation to preserve such life. If the object in the road is a turtle or a cat, you're less inclined to take action and probably wouldn't regret hitting them in the same way that you would regret hitting and killing a grown woman. Yet a turtle and a cat are both alive. You don't even concern yourself with the bugs on your windshield. You kill them with impunity. Yet they are alive as well. Like many pro-life arguments, your argument depends upon equivocation and ignoring relevant differences that actually exist. Typically pro-choice people do not deny that a fetus is alive, so your argument and analogy, besides being fallacious and misleading, is a straw man.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 11:08 am
Your premise is flawed at the start. Being pro choice or pro life has little to do with when life begins. Nobody argues that a conceptus isn't a life. Of course it's alive, it is comprised of live cells. This would be the same as arguing that an acorn is not alive.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 11:09 am
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I must have hit the wrong button or something. My comments are in my prior post.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 11:52 am
OP: you're not pro-life, you're pro-birth. I doubt you do anything, at most little, to support the "life" once it's out of the other persons body.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Maybe permanent sterilization of liberals would solve this problem
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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If you were really pro-life, you would support keeping abortion legal, support better teachings on sex education, be trying to make contraceptions more affordable/available, be trying to make healthcare more affordable/available, be supportive of maternal leave for all employees, and be contributing to the lives of children who are already born but unwanted.
It's a fact that abortions will continue to happen regardless of their legality. It's a harsh reality, but it's our reality.
What WILL happen if they are delegalized is far more women will die from being forced to use underground methods. Women, whose lives are already established, may already be mothers to children who NEED them, have families that love them, who were raped or have health issues or simply can't afford to have a child (cuz you know, healthcare is so "cheap" here).
I once read a story where a woman called an abortion clinic that was too far for her to afford to go to (since you have to jump through so many hoops and stay there for 3 days), and she couldn't afford to have another child, so instead she asked them WHAT TOOLS IN HER KITCHEN SHE COULD USE.
That is so so wrong. You are not pro-life if you think that's the way it should be. You are pro-birth, you are not pro-life.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 1:36 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Maybe permanent sterilization of liberals would solve this problem
What problem?
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Moderator Notice Fixed the OP to reflect that the pro-life argument was another person's argument, since it seems that reading comprehension was put on a back shelf and replaced with immediate outrage.
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm
I think SC is questioning our edumacashun, everyone!
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RE: Pro Choice is Slavery?
November 11, 2018 at 2:56 pm
(November 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I think SC is questioning our edumacashun, everyone!
What?! But we have a very excellent edumacashun from the best of schools employing some of the very finest words. Still I was very tempted to rant at the OP too but I couldn't be sure where she stood.
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