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Is atheism a belief?
RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 29, 2018 at 11:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: As I said, I agree with the chemist, and only you in part.  The chemist is also a scientist, and has portrayed himself scientifically.  You on the other hand... 

No reason to refute someone I already agreed with, so kudos to the scientist. 

It's assumed you won't accept scriptures.  Doesn't bother me if you don't, because it's obviously your choice.  But if you have trouble understanding something, or want to apply things to me, then I guess we can assume a FFA instead rather than trying to find ground that we can agree on.

Atheists, atheism, and the like don't bother me as-is.  A kind atheist is just as valuable to me as anybody else, and hopefully they feel the same way about me.  On the other hand, nutjob wackos who think they are always right and pretend everybody else is inferior.  Well, those peeps I take exception to.

The Christian God is incoherent to you.   There's nothing for me to reconcile, and for you to assume there is, well that's your problem, not mine.  Next.

bla bla bla
It not a "choice" to "accept scriptures". Can YOU accept the moon is made of green cheese ? No. Same with your "scriptures". 
YOU cannot explain what you were asked to explain ... therefore  you god IS incoherent, no matter what you say. The reason you think there is nothing to reconcile, is you compartmentalize and rationalize what cannot be explained. If it could be explained, someone would try. You certainly can't.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 29, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(December 29, 2018 at 11:24 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: As I said, I agree with the chemist, and only you in part.  The chemist is also a scientist, and has portrayed himself scientifically.  You on the other hand... 

No reason to refute someone I already agreed with, so kudos to the scientist. 

It's assumed you won't accept scriptures.  Doesn't bother me if you don't, because it's obviously your choice.  But if you have trouble understanding something, or want to apply things to me, then I guess we can assume a FFA instead rather than trying to find ground that we can agree on.

Atheists, atheism, and the like don't bother me as-is.  A kind atheist is just as valuable to me as anybody else, and hopefully they feel the same way about me.  On the other hand, nutjob wackos who think they are always right and pretend everybody else is inferior.  Well, those peeps I take exception to.

The Christian God is incoherent to you.   There's nothing for me to reconcile, and for you to assume there is, well that's your problem, not mine.  Next.

bla bla bla
It not a "choice" to "accept scriptures". Can YOU accept the moon is made of green cheese ? No. Same with your "scriptures". 
YOU cannot explain what you were asked to explain ... therefore  you god IS incoherent, no matter what you say. The reason you think there is nothing to reconcile, is you compartmentalize and rationalize what cannot be explained. If it could be explained, someone would try. You certainly can't.

I can't?  Because you said so?

Nope, sorry.  You don't speak for me and what I can or can't do.  You can however speak for yourself and whoever asks you to speak on their behalf.

Comments like this are why I don't take you seriously.  You don't know how to be friendly and just agree to disagree with someone.  Instead you gotta be an intolerant nutjob to others who don't carry your view.  If we could get to a point of sensible dialogue, then maybe you could see what I can produce, but as long as you act like a horses a$$, I'm not really interested.  Next.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 2:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 29, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: bla bla bla
It not a "choice" to "accept scriptures". Can YOU accept the moon is made of green cheese ? No. Same with your "scriptures". 
YOU cannot explain what you were asked to explain ... therefore  you god IS incoherent, no matter what you say. The reason you think there is nothing to reconcile, is you compartmentalize and rationalize what cannot be explained. If it could be explained, someone would try. You certainly can't.

I can't?  Because you said so?

Nope, sorry.  You don't speak for me and what I can or can't do.  You can however speak for yourself and whoever asks you to speak on their behalf.

Comments like this are why I don't take you seriously.  You don't know how to be friendly and just agree to disagree with someone.  Instead you gotta be an intolerant nutjob to others who don't carry your view.  If we could get to a point of sensible dialogue, then maybe you could see what I can produce, but as long as you act like a horses a$$, I'm not really interested.  Next.

If the definition of god is so clear let us have your definition.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 7:22 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(December 30, 2018 at 2:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I can't?  Because you said so?

Nope, sorry.  You don't speak for me and what I can or can't do.  You can however speak for yourself and whoever asks you to speak on their behalf.

Comments like this are why I don't take you seriously.  You don't know how to be friendly and just agree to disagree with someone.  Instead you gotta be an intolerant nutjob to others who don't carry your view.  If we could get to a point of sensible dialogue, then maybe you could see what I can produce, but as long as you act like a horses a$$, I'm not really interested.  Next.

If the definition of god is so clear let us have your definition.

Who is "us?"  Is a definition from a dictionary or encyclopedia fine by you?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 8:50 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 30, 2018 at 7:22 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: If the definition of god is so clear let us have your definition.

Who is "us?"  Is a definition from a dictionary or encyclopedia fine by you?

No. 
There are a lot of contradictory or nebulous definitions of god out there.
I want what YOU think one is.

"Us" would be the wider readership here.

So what is a god? I have so far not seen a description that makes sense to me.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 12:19 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(December 30, 2018 at 8:50 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Who is "us?"  Is a definition from a dictionary or encyclopedia fine by you?

No. 
There are a lot of contradictory or nebulous definitions of god out there.
I want what YOU think one is.

"Us" would be the wider readership here.

So what is a god? I have so far not seen a description that makes sense to me.

Well there is part of your problem.  You don't accept books that tell you these things and suggest ones like dictionaries and encyclopedias carry some bias.  If you won't listen to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, then you surely aren't going to accept my definition for something.  Heck, even I must concede that the dictionary holds an authority beyond that of myself to define things objectively.  Maybe some dictionaries and encyclopedias incorporate some bias, but we can generally tell which ones those are.  The ones that have been around for many years like Oxford and M-W are considered authorities in this area.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 2:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 29, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: bla bla bla
It not a "choice" to "accept scriptures". Can YOU accept the moon is made of green cheese ? No. Same with your "scriptures". 
YOU cannot explain what you were asked to explain ... therefore  you god IS incoherent, no matter what you say. The reason you think there is nothing to reconcile, is you compartmentalize and rationalize what cannot be explained. If it could be explained, someone would try. You certainly can't.

I can't?  Because you said so?

Nope, sorry.  You don't speak for me and what I can or can't do.  You can however speak for yourself and whoever asks you to speak on their behalf.

Comments like this are why I don't take you seriously.  You don't know how to be friendly and just agree to disagree with someone.  Instead you gotta be an intolerant nutjob to others who don't carry your view.  If we could get to a point of sensible dialogue, then maybe you could see what I can produce, but as long as you act like a horses a$$, I'm not really interested.  Next.

You can't because you DIDN'T. Period. if you could have, you would have. 
You didn't. 
I know what I see ... the LACK of the explanation.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(December 30, 2018 at 2:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I can't?  Because you said so?

Nope, sorry.  You don't speak for me and what I can or can't do.  You can however speak for yourself and whoever asks you to speak on their behalf.

Comments like this are why I don't take you seriously.  You don't know how to be friendly and just agree to disagree with someone.  Instead you gotta be an intolerant nutjob to others who don't carry your view.  If we could get to a point of sensible dialogue, then maybe you could see what I can produce, but as long as you act like a horses a$$, I'm not really interested.  Next.

You can't because you DIDN'T. Period. if you could have, you would have. 
You didn't. 
I know what I see ... the LACK of the explanation.

Another Buckyism. 

Just because someone can do something, doesn't mean they will or has any obligation to do so.

If so, humanity would've obliterated itself by now.

Bucky - "Hey man, you need to launch those nuclear missiles because you can."
Bucky the 2nd - "Good idea, I can so I must.  Here goes!"
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 8:56 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(December 30, 2018 at 6:05 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You can't because you DIDN'T. Period. if you could have, you would have. 
You didn't. 
I know what I see ... the LACK of the explanation.

Another Buckyism. 

Just because someone can do something, doesn't mean they will or has any obligation to do so.

If so, humanity would've obliterated itself by now.

Bucky - "Hey man, you need to launch those nuclear missiles because you can."
Bucky the 2nd - "Good idea, I can so I must.  Here goes!"

Yeah I know dear ... the dog ate your homework. What a loser. You're so pathetically obvious. 
Just define a god, or STFU.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(December 30, 2018 at 10:11 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(December 30, 2018 at 8:56 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Another Buckyism. 

Just because someone can do something, doesn't mean they will or has any obligation to do so.

If so, humanity would've obliterated itself by now.

Bucky - "Hey man, you need to launch those nuclear missiles because you can."
Bucky the 2nd - "Good idea, I can so I must.  Here goes!"

Yeah I know dear ... the dog ate your homework. What a loser. You're so pathetically obvious. 
Just define a god, or STFU.

Right, but I'm not allowed to use literature apparently.  No encyclopedias, dictionaries, journals, or whatever else.  Isn't that what the rule is?

No dog ate my homework, but they might try if I still had to do school work at home.  Anyway, you might want to get some rest.  The school bus comes rather early in the morning.
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