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Is atheism a belief?
RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 12:37 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I understand your question, but you're throwing something out there that is open to interpretation depending on the situation, so who cares?  If you don't want to use the word "complexity" then use a different word.  How hard is that?   

Nope. Fail yet again. As I predicted, more attempted evasion. No one said they didn't want to use the word complexity. 
YOU were asked to clarify it's use. Either you are REALLY stupid, or you are just a dishonest troll.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
At work.

M4X could be an honest troll..... ?

Tongue
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 1:28 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 12:37 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I understand your question, but you're throwing something out there that is open to interpretation depending on the situation, so who cares?  If you don't want to use the word "complexity" then use a different word.  How hard is that?   

Nope. Fail yet again. As I predicted, more attempted evasion. No one said they didn't want to use the word complexity. 
YOU were asked to clarify it's use. Either you are REALLY stupid, or you are just a dishonest troll.

You said he was wrong.  He wasn't. You were wrong.

Now it's "boo hoo" you were really supposed to use some definition bucky made up so he could be right.

Nope, sorry.  Reality doesn't work that way.  

Next up, Bucky will rename and redefine everything on the planet earth.  Additionally, we must use his terms and their definitions or you will automatically be considered wrong. Confused Fall

(January 5, 2019 at 1:30 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

M4X could be an honest troll..... ?

Tongue

Apparently I'm a dictionary troll.  I use a dictionary, bucky doesn't like it, so therefore I must be a troll. Dead Horse
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 2:01 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I must be a troll. Dead Horse

You are a troll and one of the telltale signs is that almost every topic you participate in becomes a bloated discussion about you and not the actual topic.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 2:08 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 2:01 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I must be a troll. Dead Horse

You are a troll and one of the telltale signs is that almost every topic you participate in becomes a bloated discussion about you and not the actual topic.

Right, says the site victim.  Everything you post, same thing.

"The mean ol' Christians made me cry."

Really, that's your initiative in life?

I'm here to have conversations with friendly people.  Not everybody is friendly.  It amazes me how I can go to a Muslim, Buddhist, or a Christian forum, and people are generally kind.  I come here and it's like going to another dimension where logic is illogical, and everybody who thinks for themselves is a mean troll.  I won't say it's atheists, because there are some here that are genuinely friendly people and are happy to have constructive dialogue.
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At work.

(January 5, 2019 at 2:01 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 1:30 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: M4X could be an honest troll..... ?

Tongue

Apparently I'm a dictionary troll.  I use a dictionary, bucky doesn't like it, so therefore I must be a troll. Dead Horse

It's more like you're using it as some sort of 'Authority' or definitive base line. Is all.

Which, as people have pounted out, a dictionary is more like a 'Guide line' of how general language use is mutually agreed upon.

Smile
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 3:11 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(January 5, 2019 at 2:01 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Apparently I'm a dictionary troll.  I use a dictionary, bucky doesn't like it, so therefore I must be a troll. Dead Horse

It's more like you're using it as some sort of 'Authority' or definitive base line. Is all.

Which,  as people have pounted out, a dictionary is more like a 'Guide line' of how general language use is mutually agreed upon.
 
Smile


Do you believe everything people point out?  That's why you do research.  It someone tells you something, check it out for yourself.

A "dictionary" is an authority for defining terms.  That's what we were looking at.  Defining a term.  If you ask someone to define something, then complain because they used a definition from the dictionary, then it sounds pretty ridiculous.  Then why even ask them for a definition?  Why not give your own definition, then move from there?  If I look for a definition, I'm not going to assume there's a specific one you want.  I just go to something that is objective, and relatively unbiased, and that's what I share.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 3:47 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 3:11 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.


It's more like you're using it as some sort of 'Authority' or definitive base line. Is all.

Which,  as people have pounted out, a dictionary is more like a 'Guide line' of how general language use is mutually agreed upon.
 
Smile


Do you believe everything people point out?  That's why you do research.  It someone tells you something, check it out for yourself.

A "dictionary" is an authority for defining terms.  That's what we were looking at.  Defining a term.  If you ask someone to define something, then complain because they used a definition from the dictionary, then it sounds pretty ridiculous.  Then why even ask them for a definition?  Why not give your own definition, then move from there?  If I look for a definition, I'm not going to assume there's a specific one you want.  I just go to something that is objective, and relatively unbiased, and that's what I share.

Wrong. Words do not have intrinsic meanings, they have usages. You are being asked which usage you intend because that may or may not match with others.

It is no different than your magic sky fairy claims. You are entirely happy to claim what god is or is not right up until you are challenged. Then you revert to the "interpretation" baloney.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
At work.

(January 5, 2019 at 3:47 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 3:11 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: It's more like you're using it as some sort of 'Authority' or definitive base line. Is all.

Which,  as people have pounted out, a dictionary is more like a 'Guide line' of how general language use is mutually agreed upon.
 
Smile


Do you believe everything people point out?  That's why you do research.  It someone tells you something, check it out for yourself.

A "dictionary" is an authority for defining terms.  That's what we were looking at.  Defining a term.  If you ask someone to define something, then complain because they used a definition from the dictionary, then it sounds pretty ridiculous.  Then why even ask them for a definition?  Why not give your own definition, then move from there?  If I look for a definition, I'm not going to assume there's a specific one you want.  I just go to something that is objective, and relatively unbiased, and that's what I share.

No M4X. That was not my point.

Again you want to cite 'The Dictionary' as 'The Authority'.

Now, admittedly, in your country there very well just might be 'Dictionary Police' or some such legal group who can and do go around insisting/demanding/dictating/enforcing how the people there use the words.

*Shrug*

What people, including myself, have asked you for is your way of using words. Of your mind's definition of words. Now, again, you might be in fear of your country's 'Dictionary Police' and hence feel you must conform to said dictionary.

How that's a bit clearer. Cheers.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
(January 5, 2019 at 4:16 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(January 5, 2019 at 3:47 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Do you believe everything people point out?  That's why you do research.  It someone tells you something, check it out for yourself.

A "dictionary" is an authority for defining terms.  That's what we were looking at.  Defining a term.  If you ask someone to define something, then complain because they used a definition from the dictionary, then it sounds pretty ridiculous.  Then why even ask them for a definition?  Why not give your own definition, then move from there?  If I look for a definition, I'm not going to assume there's a specific one you want.  I just go to something that is objective, and relatively unbiased, and that's what I share.

Wrong. Words do not have intrinsic meanings, they have usages. You are being asked which usage you intend because that may or may not match with others.

It is no different than your magic sky fairy claims. You are entirely happy to claim what god is or is not right up until you are challenged. Then you revert to the "interpretation" baloney.
I stated it.  Are you always this clueless?

Better than your claims of nothing exploding into the universe or living stuff coming from dead stuff.

Keep hearing "it happened", so I ask for proof or even how you know.  I get a bunch of excuses.  One fail, the next lemming pulls the same excuses.
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