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ISIS predicted in 2003
December 21, 2018 at 3:39 pm
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The American war in Iraq 2003, created ISIS.
ISIS jihadists are the orphans of the war.
How did The Onion predict that, but the whole American government didn't?
Or did the American government knew what it was doing all along?
As it seems it was never about "Islam".
But it was a score to settle with the U.S . The U.S army killed a hell lot of people in Iraq.
I feel sad for the gullible person believing it was about Islam..
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 21, 2018 at 3:52 pm
Perhaps they should shout "We hate America." instead of "Allahu akbar." when murdering blameless innocent children? Islamic state are obviously nothing to do with Islam lol. Why would they be calling themselves jihadists if they were not fighting a holy war?
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 21, 2018 at 4:33 pm
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ISIS? I was working for ISIS back in 2001. Believe it or not, i can prove it.
Quote:How did The Onion predict that, but the whole American government didn't?
Or did the American government knew what it was doing all along?
He is watching RT
If the american government would know what it was doing, the state department wouldnt make such bad decisions with devastating results for the US, all the time. Oh, and dont speak too loud, they may come for you.
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 22, 2018 at 3:44 pm
Well the foreign policy of the United States has traditionally be led by the profit motive. We saw it with the Banana Wars, we saw it in the Kingdom of Hawaii and we see it today in Syria and Iraq. This shouldn't surprise anybody who has been paying attention. Unfortunately, the general populace is kept in the dark by the majority of the "mainstream media".
Successive presidents could have used the powers vested in them to curb the power of the Saudis drastically. But they didn't. The defense industry needs to make more money after all.
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 23, 2018 at 5:43 am
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(December 21, 2018 at 3:52 pm)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: Perhaps they should shout "We hate America." instead of "Allahu akbar." when murdering blameless innocent children? Islamic state are obviously nothing to do with Islam lol. Why would they be calling themselves jihadists if they were not fighting a holy war?
When somebody is at war, they will use whatever to give themselves the "courage" to face machine guns and bombs.
Just like the Star of David on the Israeli flag. A religious symbol to give Jewish soldiers the courage in combat.
ISIS is shouting "we hate America"; and give themselves an extra boost by sticking to "extreme Jihadi propaganda". But if you looked closely, you will see the religious propaganda evaporate. ISIS on day 1 was so different from today.
(December 21, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: ISIS? I was working for ISIS back in 2001. Believe it or not, i can prove it. ![Read Read](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/read.gif)
Quote:How did The Onion predict that, but the whole American government didn't?
Or did the American government knew what it was doing all along?
He is watching RT
If the american government would know what it was doing, the state department wouldnt make such bad decisions with devastating results for the US, all the time. Oh, and dont speak too loud, they may come for you.
No. American politicians know exactly what they are doing. They put personal interest above anything else, and this is where the disaster originate from. You never gain peace unless you sacrifice your own interest; but America doesn't believe in that.
The Americans were warned since 2003 not to invade Iraq because "it will lead to something like ISIS".
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 23, 2018 at 8:38 am
(December 23, 2018 at 5:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. American politicians know exactly what they are doing. Then why are they having so many stupid decisions?
(December 23, 2018 at 5:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: They put personal interest above anything else, and this is where the disaster originate from. All of them? You know this how?
(December 23, 2018 at 5:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: You never gain peace unless you sacrifice your own interest; but America doesn't believe in that. "America" or american politicians? You are changing back and forth between various position, faster than others can change their shirts.
Ever read about the Berlin blockade, or probably Britains appeasement policy in the mid/late 1930s? Sacrificing your interest, facing an agressive foe, who doesnt give a $hit, thats exactly what makes you lose peace.
(December 23, 2018 at 5:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The Americans were warned since 2003 not to invade Iraq because "it will lead to something like ISIS". So what? All you have is an article from RT, a station that is Putin-controlled.
Your claim was not only they were warned, but they knew exactly what would happen, right? So please put down your tinfoil hat and bring it on, the evidence.
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 23, 2018 at 9:06 am
ISIS was created in 1999, not 2003.
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 24, 2018 at 10:06 am
(December 23, 2018 at 8:38 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (December 23, 2018 at 5:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. American politicians know exactly what they are doing. Then why are they having so many stupid decisions? You can complete my post instead of cherry picking a sentence out of the whole thing.
But for readers, of course you know that my post included this sentence:
Quote:AtlasS33 said:
No. American politicians know exactly what they are doing. They put personal interest above anything else, and this is where the disaster originate from. You never gain peace unless you sacrifice your own interest; but America doesn't believe in that.
Trolling is not a nice trait. Also wasting the time of readers to make me repeat myself, over and over and over, over the same point that I answered once.
I don't need to sound uptight, but please read the posts+what you're writing before you post it.
Quote:All of them? You know this how?
When we speak about the majority anywhere, we refer to them with the institution they represent; not with their personal names.
I thought that was innate capacity.
Quote:"America" or american politicians? You are changing back and forth between various position, faster than others can change their shirts.
Ever read about the Berlin blockade, or probably Britains appeasement policy in the mid/late 1930s? Sacrificing your interest, facing an agressive foe, who doesnt give a $hit, thats exactly what makes you lose peace.
When we refer to a country in a political discussion, the norm is that we refer to its political ruling regime.
This is not a racial discussion.
But about the Berlin Blockade, I didn't read about it until now so thank you for the information. But how does that serve your point? I couldn't see any link; rather than allies helping their allies, uniting against the USSR.
As for the British appeasement policy, that is a different government, a different country and a different time. The topic is speaking about an American fuck up that led to the advent of ISIS.
Quote:So what? All you have is an article from RT, a station that is Putin-controlled.
Your claim was not only they were warned, but they knew exactly what would happen, right? So please put down your tinfoil hat and bring it on, the evidence.
The prediction was made by "The Onion", not RT.
They didn't know what would happen. They knew that the orphans of the war will rain hell on the region. They knew that their invasion would create psychopaths and truamatized people out of thin air, and it will spread and burn the Middle East. But they didn't care.
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 25, 2018 at 11:27 am
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RE: ISIS predicted in 2003
December 25, 2018 at 3:06 pm
They guessed that something like this will happen. Nobody can make accurate predictions in politics because it is a low validity environment(it has to many variables to be predicted by us).
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