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Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 12, 2019 at 11:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 12, 2019 at 11:14 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I'll look for it.

If not folding would cause you to lose self-respect and dignity, what are those things based on in your life?  Just curious.

Those whom I love and that which I learn, and ultimately, the survival of my species and those of my World.

Cool. Thanks for sharing. Love is a powerful thing. Wishing you the best in all of it. Smile
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 12, 2019 at 8:56 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 12, 2019 at 2:20 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Oh look this guy believes evidence is proof and what he calls back ground radiation is also not proven and no one outside of God knows the bounds of the universe.

GC

The existence of the CMB was predicted and its magnitude was calculated, which is why there were scientists (such as Robert Dickie) who were looking for it.  Where do you think that the CMB comes from?  By the way, you can "watch" the CMB:

Is x% noise on TV due to Big Bang's background radiation?

There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(January 12, 2019 at 8:56 am)Jehanne Wrote: The existence of the CMB was predicted and its magnitude was calculated, which is why there were scientists (such as Robert Dickie) who were looking for it.  Where do you think that the CMB comes from?  By the way, you can "watch" the CMB:

Is x% noise on TV due to Big Bang's background radiation?

There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

BOOOOOM goes the dynamite!
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(January 12, 2019 at 8:56 am)Jehanne Wrote: The existence of the CMB was predicted and its magnitude was calculated, which is why there were scientists (such as Robert Dickie) who were looking for it.  Where do you think that the CMB comes from?  By the way, you can "watch" the CMB:

Is x% noise on TV due to Big Bang's background radiation?

There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

This NOT up for debate. The big bang is as much fact as gravity and evolution. Don't like it? Tough sh*t!
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(January 12, 2019 at 8:56 am)Jehanne Wrote: The existence of the CMB was predicted and its magnitude was calculated, which is why there were scientists (such as Robert Dickie) who were looking for it.  Where do you think that the CMB comes from?  By the way, you can "watch" the CMB:

Is x% noise on TV due to Big Bang's background radiation?

There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

Yeah, I'm not over-fond of the term 'Big Bang' myself.  But the idea behind it is sound - the sudden expansion of the early universe (just after t=0), which instantiated space-time.

I've always felt that 'The Big Fwoosh' would be a more accurate description.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(January 12, 2019 at 8:56 am)Jehanne Wrote: The existence of the CMB was predicted and its magnitude was calculated, which is why there were scientists (such as Robert Dickie) who were looking for it.  Where do you think that the CMB comes from?  By the way, you can "watch" the CMB:

Is x% noise on TV due to Big Bang's background radiation?

There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

What you are suggesting is that the Earth is motionless at the Center of the Universe. Yours is a perspective that is equivalent to claiming that the South won the Civil War.
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 14, 2019 at 6:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

This NOT up for debate. The big bang is as much fact as gravity and evolution. Don't like it? Tough sh*t!

There are no facts for the big bang nor evolution, just a bunch of rumors, live with it it's the truth.

GC

(January 14, 2019 at 7:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

Yeah, I'm not over-fond of the term 'Big Bang' myself.  But the idea behind it is sound - the sudden expansion of the early universe (just after t=0), which instantiated space-time.

I've always felt that 'The Big Fwoosh' would be a more accurate description.

Boru

The creation of the universe came about in just a few days and even on a time scale of 6000 years or so that's still pretty much instantaneous. My point is that there was no universe from a pea, it was created.

GC

GC

(January 14, 2019 at 7:27 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(January 14, 2019 at 3:07 am)Godscreated Wrote: There was no big bang as you believe and thus there can be no big bang background radiation. There is absolutely no proof of a big bang, the only so called evidence is that which was made up to fit with the ideas of those who wanted a big bang and not a creator. Here's an old saying I know you will like "God did it."

GC

What you are suggesting is that the Earth is motionless at the Center of the Universe.  Yours is a perspective that is equivalent to claiming that the South won the Civil War.

Your ignorance is showing and so is your bigotry.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 15, 2019 at 2:16 am)Godscreated Wrote: There are no facts for the big bang nor evolution, just a bunch of rumors, live with it it's the truth.

GC

Big bang is a model people use to explain facts like why galaxies we can see are moving away from us (the universe is expanding) and photons from this cosmic microwave background among other.

Similar with evolution: it is a model which is used to explain facts like why some organisms are similar to others, yet different enough that they have alternative lifestyles and do not interbreed (zebras are similar to horses, for example). The second fact is that humans have modified many organisms -- flowering plants, dogs and so on -- by selecting individuals to breed with one another in order to emphasize specific features. If humans can cause such changes to occur over the generations, natural processes can too.
The third fact is why fossil record is layered as it is (like you will never find a human and a dinosaur together) and why it shows how living things changed over time leading into beings that live today. The fourth fact is that change over the generations has been observed in laboratory and natural settings. Scientists have observed generational changes in microscopic organisms and also in insects, fish, mice, lizards and birds. In some cases, the changes have been significant enough that we can probably talk about witnessing the origin of a new species. Fifth fact is the genetic similarity.

On the other hand stories in the Bible or any other creation myth have nothing to say about these facts. So try to understand that evolution and big bang are results that came from observing the facts, while stories like creation in the Bible are made up without looking into any facts.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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