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Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
#41
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 4:20 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 4:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Interesting.  Where are the laws?

"I spread joy" is a law?  What would've been the penalty if I decided not to spread joy one day?

[Image: laws-22.jpg]

Source for chart?  Also, what was the penalty for not spreading joy?  How did they measure joy?
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#42
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
T0 Th3 M4X are you restricted to christian search engine so you can't google it for yourself?


And although Bible doesn't influence any laws now it maybe did in the past since Christians did kill millions of people because Jesus told them so, like for reasons of witchcraft (like Galatians 5:19-21) - but was it ever in any of the law books that witchcraft was against the law?

Like when St. Cyril ordered torture and death as Hypatia’s fifth-century punishment for teaching science, math, and philosophy instead of Christian legends and dogma - I mean he didn't go to prison so I guess witchcraft was lawfully enforced since Cyril was not put to prison for killing an innocent smart woman because he proclaimed her to be a witch.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#43
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 5:19 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: T0 Th3 M4X are you restricted to christian search engine so you can't google it for yourself?


And although Bible doesn't influence any laws now it maybe did in the past since Christians did kill millions of people because Jesus told them so, like for reasons of witchcraft (like Galatians 5:19-21) - but was it ever in any of the law books that witchcraft was against the law?

Like when St. Cyril ordered torture and death as Hypatia’s fifth-century punishment for teaching science, math, and philosophy instead of Christian legends and dogma - I mean he didn't go to prison so I guess witchcraft was lawfully enforced since Cyril was not put to prison for killing an innocent smart woman because he proclaimed her to be a witch.

You are the one claiming it.  Wouldn't it be more efficient if you knew where it came from to just share the source?  I mean I could Google it I suppose, but I didn't think it a big deal, and I wasn't trying to imply you were stating something incorrectly.

Still curious what the penalty is for not spreading enough joy or how it is measured.  But I guess it could be like the mystery of how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop. *Crunch*  Won't ever know.
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#44
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 5:44 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You are the one claiming it. 

Yeah imagine that: I'm claiming that Egyptians had laws and you want me to what? Prove that I'm not fooling you when I claim that Egyptian had laws? Oh boy, you really know how to troll.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#45
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 6:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 5:44 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You are the one claiming it. 

Yeah imagine that: I'm claiming that Egyptians had laws and you want me to what? Prove that I'm not fooling you when I claim that Egyptian had laws? Oh boy, you really know how to troll.

You posted someone else's copyrighted material, then won't provide the source for it.  Unless you're suggesting it's yours.

It's okay though, I already traced it, and am content to leave it at that.

You can call me a troll, but I guess I could call you a thief for stealing.  Fair?
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#46
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 5:19 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Like when St. Cyril ordered torture and death as Hypatia’s fifth-century punishment for teaching science, math, and philosophy instead of Christian legends and dogma - I mean he didn't go to prison so I guess witchcraft was lawfully enforced since Cyril was not put to prison for killing an innocent smart woman because he proclaimed her to be a witch.

Can you point me to a source that says Hypatia was condemned for teaching science, math, and philosophy? All of the sources I have ever seen say Cyril opposed her due to political intrigues. She supported Orestes in a political showdown. 

A lot of falsehoods have been written about her, including the unhistorical idea that her death coincided with the destruction of the great library. Like Giordano Bruno, she has sometimes been called into service by people who dislike Christianity -- but only when they conveniently oversimplify the facts.

It's true that she was a mathematician, though she seems not to have done original work -- mostly commentary on the work of others. There is no firm evidence that she made any scientific discoveries. 

She believed in a geocentric universe and was a follower of Plotinus in her Neoplatonic beliefs. These are not Christian, but they are certainly unlike anything that science teaches today. The Plotinian belief that the soul descends from and returns to the One is similar to some kinds of Christianity, and was influential to some important Christians. In short, if she were posting on this forum you would berate her ideas. 

Again, you are exaggerating or inventing.
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#47
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 4:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 4:07 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Laws existed long before the Bible, like Egyptian laws/ moral codes, take a look at them

[Image: 42.jpg]

Not so bad, ha? And yet Egyptians have never heard of the Bible or Moses, so when people make laws they use other means than the Bible.

Even the Obama is spoofing the notion that Bible can have anything to do with the laws




Interesting.  Where are the laws?

"I spread joy" is a law?  What would've been the penalty if I decided not to spread joy one day?

He also mentioned us godless heathens in his inauguration speech.
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#48
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
(January 10, 2019 at 7:15 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 10, 2019 at 4:13 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Interesting.  Where are the laws?

"I spread joy" is a law?  What would've been the penalty if I decided not to spread joy one day?

He also mentioned us godless heathens in his inauguration speech.

Obummer it's Obama Panic
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#49
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
Unfortunately FM is full of fake news and info, I believe it's the one thing he excels at.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#50
RE: Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return
Belaqua Wrote:All of the sources I have ever seen say Cyril opposed her due to political intrigues.
"opposed her"? I say that's some opposition. You really should look out of Christian sources more





(January 10, 2019 at 2:55 am)Godscreated Wrote: there is no proof of the big bang

Oh look GC never heard about evidence for the big bang like the background radiation of the universe from the big bang itself and doesn't know that Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe actually a took a picture of our universe as a baby not long ago after the Big Bang.

So maybe if I show him the picture of the early universe

[Image: bb.jpg]

and tell him that over 80 years now scientists can observe the big bang by studying background radiation he'll see that there is indeed evidence for big bang and he'll start abandoning his childish worldview.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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