Abiogenesis in the proximity of hydrothermal vents?

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Ha ha ha ha ha

Ok, so if I say to someone who thought Thor was real "bullshit, don't be a moron" . because I am blunt that makes Thor real?

Got it, 

Did I mention that the Chicago Cubs beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the NHL Stanley Cup?

You're going to tell me I am right, or treat that absurd claim as equal by proxy knowing you'd call it a absurd claim?

I'd say anyone claiming that the Chicago Cubs beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the NHL Stanley cup is a moron.

But that is just me. I am really pesky about facts and logic.

Da what what what?

I dunno why you are stuck on Thor, but okay.  I don't recall making any claims about Thor or asserting anything about him as a subject.  Just nonstop you mentioning him.   As far as the Stanley Cup goes, you can say whoever you want won it.  What does that have to do with me?

It's not logic when you assert I care about some relationship that I never even mentioned, but you keep doing it with random subjects.  Why?  I dunno.  "Thor" can go win the Stanley Cup all by himself for all I care.  Don't give a rat's behind one way or another.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Abiogenesis was always going to happen and will have occurred multiple times throughout the galaxy. This is because it's driven by the laws of thermodynamics.

[Brian37]

Ha ha ha ha ha

Ok, so if I say to someone who thought Thor was real "bullshit, don't be a moron" . because I am blunt that makes Thor real?

Got it, 

Did I mention that the Chicago Cubs beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the NHL Stanley Cup?

You're going to tell me I am right, or treat that absurd claim as equal by proxy knowing you'd call it a absurd claim?

I'd say anyone claiming that the Chicago Cubs beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the NHL Stanley cup is a moron.

But that is just me. I am really pesky about facts and logic.

Da what what what?

I dunno why you are stuck on Thor, but okay.  I don't recall making any claims about Thor or asserting anything about him as a subject.  Just nonstop you mentioning him.   As far as the Stanley Cup goes, you can say whoever you want won it.  What does that have to do with me?

It's not logic when you assert I care about some relationship that I never even mentioned, but you keep doing it with random subjects.  Why?  I dunno.  "Thor" can go win the Stanley Cup all by himself for all I care.  Don't give a rat's behind one way or another.

Damn you seriously don't get it.

I am an atheist, I don't believe in Thor or Apollo or Vishnu or any claimed deity in human history.

Your problem is that sometime in the past, someone managed to convince you that your pet deity was real while Thor or Apollo or Vishnu are not real.

I bring up Thor in, all be it, a most likely futile effort on my part, to show you you have no more evidence for the sky hero you believe in as those in antiquity who believed in Thor as fervently and literally as what you claim now.

You could be arguing for the existence of Allah or Yahweh or Apollo, and my argument would be the same.

You buy an invisible super natural being that has no more evidence than Thor, or Osiris or Apollo, or Yoda for that matter.

Stop getting angry at me for evidence you lack.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Da what what what?

I dunno why you are stuck on Thor, but okay.  I don't recall making any claims about Thor or asserting anything about him as a subject.  Just nonstop you mentioning him.   As far as the Stanley Cup goes, you can say whoever you want won it.  What does that have to do with me?

It's not logic when you assert I care about some relationship that I never even mentioned, but you keep doing it with random subjects.  Why?  I dunno.  "Thor" can go win the Stanley Cup all by himself for all I care.  Don't give a rat's behind one way or another.

Damn you seriously don't get it.

I am an atheist, I don't believe in Thor or Apollo or Vishnu or any claimed deity in human history.

Your problem is that sometime in the past, someone managed to convince you that your pet deity was real while Thor or Apollo or Vishnu are not real.

I bring up Thor in, all be it, a most likely futile effort on my part, to show you you have no more evidence for the sky hero you believe in as those in antiquity who believed in Thor as fervently and literally as what you claim now.

You could be arguing for the existence of Allah or Yahweh or Apollo, and my argument would be the same.

You buy an invisible super natural being that has no more evidence than Thor, or Osiris or Apollo, or Yoda for that matter.

Stop getting angry at me for evidence you lack.

Then don't believe in Thor, Apollo, or Vishnu.  Your disbelief in them has nothing to do with me.  Zero, zilch, nix, nada, goose egg.

Now you're assessing my "problem."  Thanks.  Now you've made yourself the subject and gave yourself the authority for judging me, when most of your statement about me that follows is false.  If you would've actually asked me, I would've told you.  Why, because you are not the subject of what I think.  So please stop telling me what I think.  If you want to know, then ask.  More times than not I will be glad to share.

Not angry with you.  Just don't see it as being productive having a discussion if you're so self-absorbed in your ideas.

[Peebothuhlu]

I see, so you get to pick the dirt?

That argument may work in your head, but not mine.

 I'm not 'Picking' or 'Choosing' anything.

 You started with the whole "Deity made man' thing.

I pointed out that, if said event were literal, then we don't actually resemble anything like what we shoud be if said story were true/literal.

Since the 'dirt' you talked about has absolutely nothing in common with humans (Or life in general).


You then replied with things that supposedly supported your version of things.... With quotes that did nothing of the sort.

I pointed this out and you've.... ricocheted off some where else with the conversation.

As well as a snide remark and emote.

All in all a typical interaction with yourself given your posting histpory here on these boards.

Unless you'd like to link to any series of posts that you think refute such claims?

Not at work.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

I see, so you get to pick the dirt?

That argument may work in your head, but not mine.

 I'm not 'Picking' or 'Choosing' anything.

 You started with the whole "Deity made man' thing.

I pointed out that, if said event were literal, then we don't actually resemble anything like what we shoud be if said story were true/literal.

Since the 'dirt' you talked about has absolutely nothing in common with humans (Or life in general).


You then replied with things that supposedly supported your version of things.... With quotes that did nothing of the sort.

I pointed this out and you've.... ricocheted off some where else with the conversation.

As well as a snide remark and emote.

All in all a typical interaction with yourself given your posting histpory here on these boards.

Unless you'd like to link to any series of posts that you think refute such claims?

Not at work.

Besides containing a lot of the same organic material?

If you're suggesting a silicon-based as likely, but we see carbon-based and we see the relationship between dirt/soil, vegetation, and humans, then that would seem more problematic to you.  Additionally we see a symbiotic relationship.  God breathed into us.  Equally so, our breath provides carbon dioxide for plants, and they provide oxygen in return.  Throw in the sun and we have photosynthesis so that the plants have a fuel source, as wall as what they draw from the soil.  Additionally that same sun helps us to produce vitamins we need, like Vitamin D.  And that's just some of it.  A very complex and ordered system.

[Peebothuhlu]

 I'm not 'Picking' or 'Choosing' anything.

 You started with the whole "Deity made man' thing.

I pointed out that, if said event were literal, then we don't actually resemble anything like what we shoud be if said story were true/literal.

Since the 'dirt' you talked about has absolutely nothing in common with humans (Or life in general).


You then replied with things that supposedly supported your version of things.... With quotes that did nothing of the sort.

I pointed this out and you've.... ricocheted off some where else with the conversation.

As well as a snide remark and emote.

All in all a typical interaction with yourself given your posting histpory here on these boards.

Unless you'd like to link to any series of posts that you think refute such claims?

Not at work.

Besides containing a lot of the same organic material?

If you're suggesting a silicon-based as likely, but we see carbon-based and we see the relationship between dirt/soil, vegetation, and humans, then that would seem more problematic to you.  Additionally we see a symbiotic relationship.  God breathed into us.  Equally so, our breath provides carbon dioxide for plants, and they provide oxygen in return.  Throw in the sun and we have photosynthesis so that the plants have a fuel source, as wall as what they draw from the soil.  Additionally that same sun helps us to produce vitamins we need, like Vitamin D.  And that's just some of it.  A very complex and ordered system.

 That's... a nice reply.

But it's not adressing the issue.

Life is based around organic/carbon chemsitry.

Dirt, rocks etc are made up mostly of NOT carbon based stuff.

That there are trace elements and organic compounds in soul is caused by the complexinteractions of, well,life.

Worms, fungii, bacteria all go towards turning 'Dirt' into 'Soil'.

The fable you're referencing is saying that the diety formed people out of 'Dirt'.

What dirt is does not match with what we are.

So... is it a true, litteral tale?

Or are we back to reading Aesop's fables again?

Not at work.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Besides containing a lot of the same organic material?

If you're suggesting a silicon-based as likely, but we see carbon-based and we see the relationship between dirt/soil, vegetation, and humans, then that would seem more problematic to you.  Additionally we see a symbiotic relationship.  God breathed into us.  Equally so, our breath provides carbon dioxide for plants, and they provide oxygen in return.  Throw in the sun and we have photosynthesis so that the plants have a fuel source, as wall as what they draw from the soil.  Additionally that same sun helps us to produce vitamins we need, like Vitamin D.  And that's just some of it.  A very complex and ordered system.

 That's... a nice reply.

But it's not adressing the issue.

Life is based around organic/carbon chemsitry.

Dirt, rocks etc are made up mostly of NOT carbon based stuff.

That there are trace elements and organic compounds in soul is caused by the complexinteractions of, well,life.

Worms, fungii, bacteria all go towards turning 'Dirt' into 'Soil'.

The fable you're referencing is saying that the diety formed people out of 'Dirt'.

What dirt is does not match with what we are.

So... is it a true, litteral tale?

Or are we back to reading Aesop's fables again?

Not at work.

Sounds like you're telling the fables.  We're not made of rocks, yet you're insistent we should be.  Why?

Also, we find carbon in soil, so not sure why you're rambling on about it as being a problem.

Sorry, I'll stick to common sense and you can believe we should be rock people.

Oh look, it's evolution.  The rocks are turning into people with hats.  


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[Peebothuhlu]

Sounds like you're telling the fables.  We're not made of rocks, yet you're insistent we should be.  Why?

Also, we find carbon in soil, so not sure why you're rambling on about it as being a problem.

Sorry, I'll stick to common sense and you can believe we should be rock people.

Oh look, it's evolution.  The rocks are turning into people with hats.  

 No. I'm doing no such thing.

This conversation is about you M4X, not me.

Again, you post states:"We find carbon in soil."

I've already agreed and pointed that out that there is carbon etc laced through soil.

What you now seem to be dodging is that 'Soil' without carbon is more acredited as 'Dirt' and as such, if people were made out of sirt then they would have a completely different composition that what we see.

So far you haven't actually presented anything other than "Diety made people out of dirt' (To paraphrase)

I'm also seeking clarification as to wether you think the tae of your diety doing its magic stuff is litteral or fable.

Not at work.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Sounds like you're telling the fables.  We're not made of rocks, yet you're insistent we should be.  Why?

Also, we find carbon in soil, so not sure why you're rambling on about it as being a problem.

Sorry, I'll stick to common sense and you can believe we should be rock people.

Oh look, it's evolution.  The rocks are turning into people with hats.  

 No. I'm doing no such thing.

This conversation is about you M4X, not me.

Again, you post states:"We find carbon in soil."

I've already agreed and pointed that out that there is carbon etc laced through soil.

What you now seem to be dodging is that 'Soil' without carbon is more acredited as 'Dirt' and as such, if people were made out of sirt then they would have a completely different composition that what we see.

So far you haven't actually presented anything other than "Diety made people out of dirt' (To paraphrase)

I'm also seeking clarification as to wether you think the tae of your diety doing its magic stuff is litteral or fable.

Not at work.

I didn't say "just dirt."  Regardless, you insisted it was the wrong dirt, so it looks like you're choosing history now.  Kinda odd really, but okay.  Has to be the dirt you say after I say it, even though you didn't say any dirt to begin with.

No reason to mold reality, especially history, to fit your personal bias every time I say something.  Also wasn't a good paraphrase because that's only part of what was stated.

Dunno what "magic stuff" you're talking about either.  As far as I know I never made any claims about anybody using magic to make anything.  Maybe you have our conversation mixed with a different one you're having.  I really dunno.