Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: March 28, 2024, 11:53 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
This year in "sell more and do nothing"
#1
This year in "sell more and do nothing"
Florida should change it's state motto to "Duck and cover".

5 more dead because of ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws.



Reply
#2
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
I watched the video and read a couple of news stories about this.  At this point, it isn't known if ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws' contributed anything to this crime. 

If you have a source reporting otherwise, I'll be happy to read it.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Reply
#3
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
Have you ever seen the movie "Guardians of the Galaxy"??

Ever seen Groot?

....

Brian is our version of Groot.

But, instead of " I am Groot", Brian simply says " The market is flooded".


...
Reply
#4
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws might very well have played a part, or not. I agree with Brian (WHAT!!) though that those things do worsen what seems like a pandemic. Lots of stories about people selling tons of guns without licenses, shootings, suicides, accidental shotguns from the backseat, etc.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
Reply
#5
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
(January 24, 2019 at 9:25 am)tackattack Wrote: ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws might very well have played a part, or not. I agree with Brian (WHAT!!) though that those things do worsen what seems like a pandemic. Lots of stories about people selling tons of guns without licenses, shootings, suicides, accidental shotguns from the backseat, etc.

Agreed.  Any (or all) of the causes Brian listed are perfectly plausible but - at this point - it's a bit premature to claim that this particular shooting happened because of ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws'.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Reply
#6
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
(January 24, 2019 at 9:13 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I watched the video and read a couple of news stories about this.  At this point, it isn't known if ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws' contributed anything to this crime. 

If you have a source reporting otherwise, I'll be happy to read it.

Boru

Yes it did. I am tired of people, not you here, but in general, using excuses like "there was no way of knowing" or "we cant presume guilt with no record". He got access, and regardless of how, he still got access. 

I am sick of motive being harped on too. I don't care about legal or illegal or motive. Columbine, Newtown, Va Tech, Vegas, Pulse, Parkland, ect ect ect, all happened because a disturbed person, regardless of motive, got access.

Australia had Tasmania and after that, they pulled their heads out of their asses, I do not see why we can't do the same. 

The reason we have the level of firearm violence is because the corporations who make them love profits and use the NRA leadership to con gullible people into protecting the industry.
Reply
#7
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
Just for fun - ask Brian what his plan is - to "unflood the market".


He just ignores when I ask.....
Reply
#8
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
(January 24, 2019 at 9:31 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 24, 2019 at 9:13 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I watched the video and read a couple of news stories about this.  At this point, it isn't known if ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws' contributed anything to this crime. 

If you have a source reporting otherwise, I'll be happy to read it.

Boru

Yes it did. I am tired of people, not you here, but in general, using excuses like "there was no way of knowing" or "we cant presume guilt with no record". He got access, and regardless of how, he still got access. 

I am sick of motive being harped on too. I don't care about legal or illegal or motive. Columbine, Newtown, Va Tech, Vegas, Pulse, Parkland, ect ect ect, all happened because a disturbed person, regardless of motive, got access.

Australia had Tasmania and after that, they pulled their heads out of their asses, I do not see why we can't do the same. 

The reason we have the level of firearm violence is because the corporations who make them love profits and use the NRA leadership to con gullible people into protecting the industry.

Just saying that you're being a bit premature in your judgement.  You don't know how this murderous thug got the weapon(s) he used, you don't know his background - in short you know no more about this tragedy than any of us.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws' are issues your country needs to address.  But you can't possibly know if ANY of those had ANYTHING to do with THIS shooting.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Reply
#9
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
(January 24, 2019 at 10:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(January 24, 2019 at 9:31 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yes it did. I am tired of people, not you here, but in general, using excuses like "there was no way of knowing" or "we cant presume guilt with no record". He got access, and regardless of how, he still got access. 

I am sick of motive being harped on too. I don't care about legal or illegal or motive. Columbine, Newtown, Va Tech, Vegas, Pulse, Parkland, ect ect ect, all happened because a disturbed person, regardless of motive, got access.

Australia had Tasmania and after that, they pulled their heads out of their asses, I do not see why we can't do the same. 

The reason we have the level of firearm violence is because the corporations who make them love profits and use the NRA leadership to con gullible people into protecting the industry.

Just saying that you're being a bit premature in your judgement.  You don't know how this murderous thug got the weapon(s) he used, you don't know his background - in short you know no more about this tragedy than any of us.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws' are issues your country needs to address.  But you can't possibly know if ANY of those had ANYTHING to do with THIS shooting.

Boru

Boru this is not "pre mature" on my part.

This is a 40 year old problem started when the NRA, which got hijacked by corporate interests and went from being a safty org to being nothing more than a heat shield profit lobby.

I have mentioned it in prior posts many times on this issue. My 1984 jr year HS yearbook as a picture of the McDonalds shooting in it. The  last time the GOP did anything reasonable on firearm safety laws was the Brady bill. But even that was neutered to the point of virtually being useless because of all the obstruction by the NRA leadership and the industry holding the nation hostage.

Parkland I think was the one event that is finally starting to change the tide. But, it should not take countless events, week after week, month after month, year after year, to stop it. 

It is sad that America is a country where people have to fear getting shot doing anything, shopping, going to school, going to a bank or bar. The amount of firearm death in America is simply unacceptable and letting the NRA and GOP and industry hold us hostage is why nothing effective ever gets done.
Reply
#10
RE: This year in "sell more and do nothing"
(January 24, 2019 at 10:19 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 24, 2019 at 10:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Just saying that you're being a bit premature in your judgement.  You don't know how this murderous thug got the weapon(s) he used, you don't know his background - in short you know no more about this tragedy than any of us.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that ' ease of access, flooded market, and crappy vetting laws' are issues your country needs to address.  But you can't possibly know if ANY of those had ANYTHING to do with THIS shooting.

Boru

Boru this is not "pre mature" on my part.

This is a 40 year old problem started when the NRA, which got hijacked by corporate interests and went from being a safty org to being nothing more than a heat shield profit lobby.

I have mentioned it in prior posts many times on this issue. My 1984 jr year HS yearbook as a picture of the McDonalds shooting in it. The  last time the GOP did anything reasonable on firearm safety laws was the Brady bill. But even that was neutered to the point of virtually being useless because of all the obstruction by the NRA leadership and the industry holding the nation hostage.

Parkland I think was the one event that is finally starting to change the tide. But, it should not take countless events, week after week, month after month, year after year, to stop it. 

It is sad that America is a country where people have to fear getting shot doing anything, shopping, going to school, going to a bank or bar. The amount of firearm death in America is simply unacceptable and letting the NRA and GOP and industry hold us hostage is why nothing effective ever gets done.

[Image: tangent.jpg]

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  [Serious] Woman raped while onlookers did nothing LadyForCamus 115 5716 October 19, 2021 at 5:17 pm
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  Person Of The Year BrianSoddingBoru4 15 524 December 13, 2020 at 12:23 pm
Last Post: GUBU
  New Year zebo-the-fat 5 735 January 1, 2020 at 11:45 am
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  Among Matt Bevin's Pardons: Man who raped 9 year old girl Cecelia 1 391 December 14, 2019 at 1:59 am
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  T.I. takes his daughter to the gyno every year to check her Hymen. Divinity 48 3796 December 5, 2019 at 8:39 am
Last Post: LastPoet
  Want to sell that island? onlinebiker 30 2364 August 22, 2019 at 1:21 pm
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  Bus Driver who raped 14-year old gets no Jail TIme Divinity 4 533 April 30, 2019 at 11:18 am
Last Post: Jackalope
  Today in "Sell More And Do Nothing" Brian37 77 4354 April 12, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Shultz knows nothing, hears nothing, sees.... Brian37 22 1255 January 31, 2019 at 7:37 am
Last Post: Yonadav
  Happy New Year! Dr H 0 208 January 9, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Last Post: Dr H



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)