(February 2, 2019 at 4:20 pm)unfogged Wrote:(February 2, 2019 at 12:49 pm)Acrobat Wrote: Yet, we don’t see you on an “afariest” forum, gathering together in groups of “afariest”, or even feeling compelled to use any such label to identify who you are..
We don't live in a world where "fairyists" tell us that we can't be moral without believing in fairies and making laws to enforce the rules that they say that they got from the fairies. If we did then being an "afairyist" would be a thing. When theism largely dies there will be no need to identify as an atheist.
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(February 1, 2019 at 6:48 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: I often go back and forth on this idea, debating with myself whether or not being an atheist is important to my identity. At times, I feel that, no, it isn't important. God or the lack thereof is simply a non-issue in most areas in my life and it's something I simply normally don't think about. It's not like I go to work and think, "Well, it's Monday morning and there's no such thing as god. The endless march of time will erode us all into stardust eventually, so let's go to work." Being a non violent human is the most important to me. But outside that, facts are equal as well. If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.
Yeah, I can just see a bunch of cave dwelling elders thinking that it's a scandal what these young people are doing these days with their artificial caves that aren't even made of good respectable rock. Necessity surely had nothing to do with it. Those kids with their artificial caves were just challenging social norms, man. They build their artificial caves in the most desirable locations, and their parents just don't get it, man!
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RE: Is being an atheist important to you?
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(February 3, 2019 at 3:20 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Yeah, I can just see a bunch of cave dwelling elders thinking that it's a scandal what these young people are doing these days with their artificial caves that aren't even made of good respectable rock. Necessity surely had nothing to do with it. Those kids with their artificial caves were just challenging social norms, man. They build their artificial caves in the most desirable locations, and their parents just don't get it, man! Huh? Evolution is about getting to the point of reproduction, the ability to adapt. "Necessity" really does not have to do with evolution the way you put it here, lots of superfluous genes that do nothing but take a ride, body parts and organs too. Nipples on men are not a "necessity". Whales still have hip bones from when they walked on land.
Sooo.... kinda.
I was a very devout and devoted Christian. I loved the church, I loved my god, I loved Jesus. So it’s a fairly large transition to believing all that stuff is a bunch of crap. But it’s been ten years. On a day to day basis my not believing in garbage doesn’t come up. I have other things to do. I have a job. I have student loans. I have a husband and a dog.
Being an atheist is not that important to me, but being a skeptic and a critical thinker are.
Atheism is just the result of correctly applied skepticism and critical thinking with regards to the god claim. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
It's about as important to me as not believing in Bigfoot.
That is, not much.
My philosophical worldview is important to me, which inevitably includes my atheism. I don't love to identify as an atheist, and that label itself isn't very important. But my not believing in God, and then reconciling with that, is a part of me, and it's led me to some very interesting philosophies and paths.
I said no not because being religious would be an acceptable alternative, but rather because it's a default state. It's not something I treasure. It's a lack of something.
(February 2, 2019 at 4:50 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(February 2, 2019 at 4:20 pm)unfogged Wrote: We don't live in a world where "fairyists" tell us that we can't be moral without believing in fairies and making laws to enforce the rules that they say that they got from the fairies. If we did then being an "afairyist" would be a thing. When theism largely dies there will be no need to identify as an atheist. So, as usual, you have no point and only want to deflect. |
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