To all religions/What makes you think......

[Abaddon_ire]

The most abusive are invariably the religious.

I don't know about your call center, of course.

And quite obviously you don't care either. There is a reason that we have a backroom support team. Some of the calls caused by you religious have put the call takers into therapy. Thanks a whole bunch for that.

It's sad that people think they have the right to be abusive.

The religious generally do. They know there is a network available to them to cover their tracks. Your random secular abuser does not have such a network. 

I am skeptical, though, that religious people are more abusive in general.

From the coalface, yes they are and you are clueless on this matter.

Here is a post I read on our present site, from earlier today:

Which has sweet fanny adams to do with the matter at hand and given your posting history, you likely deserved it. Given your claims I am within an ace of posting something similar. Your towering arrogant ignorance and blind faith has made you actively hurl out your brain.

I will just note that you have blind quoted giving neither source nor evidence. Why is that?

It may be that we remark it more when people we disagree with are rude, and take it less seriously when atheists, who are, after all, more rational, talk in this way. But my experience hasn't indicated that atheists have themselves under control any more than others. 

Blatant strawman. Such claim was never made, albeit the evidence is mounting up.

(The recipient of the above post, to his great credit, didn't respond at all. Though it's commonly thought that we are supposed to respond in kind to this sort of thing, I feel that isn't helpful.)

And as usual, the religious descend into blaming everyone else. Even your High Sparrow descended into blaming everyone else at his conclave of cross dressing perverts.

Kindly try to pay attention to reality instead of an imaginary spook in the sky.

[Alan V]

A lack of supporting evidence for any belief is justification for a lack of belief.

And any lack is a lack based on a framework for interpreting what evidence consists of.

Without empiricism, we couldn't tell when philosophers are wrong.

Facts are moving targets, so you have to change your framework depending on what you're assessing. That's covered in science better than philosophy.

[Belacqua]

And as usual, the religious descend into blaming everyone else. Even your High Sparrow descended into blaming everyone else at his conclave of cross dressing perverts.

Kindly try to pay attention to reality instead of an imaginary spook in the sky.

Again, you may have me confused with someone else. I have never been religious, never argued in favor of the existence of god, etc. 

I am against abusive language from anyone to anyone. 

The insulting post I quoted earlier wasn't aimed at me. It was posted here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-58412-p...pid1887320

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Without empiricism, we couldn't tell when philosophers are wrong.  

This is a clear statement of part of the framework you use to evaluate truth claims. I'm not saying it's a bad framework.

[Abaddon_ire]

And as usual, the religious descend into blaming everyone else. Even your High Sparrow descended into blaming everyone else at his conclave of cross dressing perverts.

Kindly try to pay attention to reality instead of an imaginary spook in the sky.

Again, you may have me confused with someone else. I have never been religious, never argued in favor of the existence of god, etc. 

I am against abusive language from anyone to anyone. 

The insulting post I quoted earlier wasn't aimed at me. It was posted here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-58412-p...pid1887320

OK so now your claim is that your last post was intentionally dishonest in every way. Just so long as we are clear.

ETA: And don't think nobody noticed how you totally dodged the difficult parts. You make me sick

[Belacqua]

OK so now your claim is that your last post was intentionally dishonest in every way. Just so long as we are clear.

This was not my claim, and I don't understand why you assert that.

I'd be grateful if you could point out to me which assertions I made which you perceive to be dishonest.

[Abaddon_ire]

OK so now your claim is that your last post was intentionally dishonest in every way. Just so long as we are clear.

This was not my claim, and I don't understand why you assert that.

I'd be grateful if you could point out to me which assertions I made which you perceive to be dishonest.

No thank you very much. You have descended into such a low level of utter scumbaggery that I will no longer engage your crap.

[Belacqua]

This was not my claim, and I don't understand why you assert that.

I'd be grateful if you could point out to me which assertions I made which you perceive to be dishonest.

No thank you very much. You have descended into such a low level of utter scumbaggery that I will no longer engage your crap.

OK. Thank you anyway. I promise to be as honest as I can in the future -- certainly I have never intentionally typed an untrue sentence on this forum. 

I am glad we agree that it's bad to be abusive to people.

[Godscreated]

I invite any Christian, any Jew, any Buddhist, and Hindu, Muslim, any whatever, to answer the following question.

What makes you think, your specific religion and or sect, will survive forever? And I don't want puppets with hands up their backs responding. I want your personal opinion, not what your god or holy person or holy writing says. 

There was an oral tradition of religion long before written language. There are also lots of dead religions nobody believes in now.

Just who do you think you are demanding and limiting a conversation and the beliefs of people, you would rant to no end if I asked you to explain why evolution is correct and not use any science to back up your belief. I got all my belief from the scriptures before becoming a Christian and upon that belief I came to Christ as my Savior, thus I'm titled a Christians. After that day God through his word started working with me to build my faith into truth and belief until it became knowledge. I know know that God is who He says He is with complete certainty, no doubts. God says He is eternal and that I will live with Him eternally so I know that this will last forever. God has said all other gods are false, not real just idols to serve man's desires, so the ones that are still going today will fall as all those in the past have.

What makes anyone think, say in 20,000 years, if humans manage not to blow themselves up in a nuclear war, or we don't get killed off by a meteor, or mega volcano, and we manage to stop global warming. What makes anyone think today's currently held worldwide religions wont morph into something unrecognizable or simply completely die out in 20,000 years?

 First of all no one has proven that global warming will destroy mankind, reduce our numbers is almost a certainty, the earth can not support this population much longer and the needs of people will be met before we quite using fossil fuels and all the other things contributing to the warming. Population grow was always kept in check by wars and our lack of scientific knowledge. We have so far managed to keep world wars at bay and accumulated scientific knowledge enough to support an unhealthy amount of people on this planet. Man is not smart enough or willing enough to control his desires and know we are going to pay a price for that and a correction is on the way if Jesus doesn't return before that happens. God says in His word that man would completely destroy the human race but that He would intervene before that could happen, so I'm guessing that the plagues of Revelations will be mostly man made events before God ordains an end to this world. So you see we will not destroy ourselves directly because God will not allow it.
 By the way because I know my God I can tell you that if this earth was to last another 20,000 years Christianity will not change, God has always corrected man's way in this matter so that that would not happen, check out the history of Christianity if you do not believe me, yes the proof is within world history that Christianity will be as God intends until Christ returns.

GC

[tackattack]

I invite any Christian, any Jew, any Buddhist, and Hindu, Muslim, any whatever, to answer the following question.

What makes you think, your specific religion and or sect, will survive forever? And I don't want puppets with hands up their backs responding. I want your personal opinion, not what your god or holy person or holy writing says. 

There was an oral tradition of religion long before written language. There are also lots of dead religions nobody believes in now.

What makes anyone think, say in 20,000 years, if humans manage not to blow themselves up in a nuclear war, or we don't get killed off by a meteor, or mega volcano, and we manage to stop global warming. What makes anyone think today's currently held worldwide religions wont morph into something unrecognizable or simply completely die out in 20,000 years?

And again, please don't respond with, "My blah blah blah says."

I want your opinion, not preaching, or selling.

I'm not personally much for eschatology, but what makes me think, my specific religion and or sect, will survive forever? I don't. The world started without people and religion and will end that way. I know you don't want scripture, but even the Bible talks about the death of the faithful and turning away from the "church"

[Drich]

I invite any Christian, any Jew, any Buddhist, and Hindu, Muslim, any whatever, to answer the following question.

What makes you think, your specific religion and or sect, will survive forever?

It won't.. depending on which interpretation there will be a great rapture where all but a reminate will go to heaven in a flash. and the rest will remain to try and save the rest of you lot and to be persecuted by those who really hate God.
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Once the last person who will be saves is saved God simply puts and end by calling everyone up and let the rest of you go nuts eat each other/zombie each other.

And I don't want puppets with hands up their backs responding. I want your personal opinion, not what your god or holy person or holy writing says. 

I see this happening as things are being put into motion everyday. Things happening that have never happened before.

There was an oral tradition of religion long before written language. There are also lots of dead religions nobody believes in now.

and you think 2000 years is nothing? The reason no one believes in those religions is there is nothing powering them any more. I know you and people like yourself think you are special and smarter than everyone else. The thing is your fellow man is not as dumb as you think. they can tell when a religion is making good and when it is not. When a religion is not making good it dies.
Christianity is still making good on it's top shelf promises!

What makes anyone think, say in 20,000 years, if humans manage not to blow themselves up in a nuclear war, or we don't get killed off by a meteor, or mega volcano, and we manage to stop global warming. What makes anyone think today's currently held worldwide religions wont morph into something unrecognizable or simply completely die out in 20,000 years?

it will change. as the nature of the church now has a role as being a furture brid of Christ in 20K years hopefully we can walk and work with Christ as a partner and not someone in waiting.

And again, please don't respond with, "My blah blah blah says."

I want your opinion, not preaching, or selling.

why do I think these things? because of what i have experienced over my life. I know what it is like to work with God and to be in his will andknow our eternity future will be filled out this way.