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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 3:13 am
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Three things I'd like to see for the church rules
- Be intellectually honest
- No cherry-picking
- Everyone must read the whole damn book for themselves cover-to-cover
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 10:06 am
Great inputs so far people. Keep them coming. It's not that I'm trying to start a new denomination, but I am trying t find out what parts of Church people (non-believers and believers) are strongly against and the direction they'd like to see it take.
(March 4, 2019 at 9:28 pm)ignoramus Wrote: OP. I'll ask an honest serious question first.
Are we to assume that this establishment is "for profit" or not "for profit"?
If "for profit", who profits? Can I have a breakdown. I may be interested. (from a spiritual perspective). Well it's a new denomination so it could be either for profit or not for profit. I would personally steer towards the later not for profit.
I believe the consensus of a profit would be like an llc that takes in a community profit and then spends that profit on taxes and community outreach or self improvement that is mutually agreed upon. If you have a for profit that manages a 0 balance budget well then it's essentially a not for profit.
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 10:18 am
Church rules.
Over 18's only.
Questions invited.
No collection bowl or amateur organist.
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 10:25 am
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(March 4, 2019 at 6:53 pm)tackattack Wrote: Rather than asking for the endless list of things most of the site will list that they don't like about "church" or religion, or focusing on the belief in God or which God, etc.
I'd like to know if a new Church denomination of Christians (meaning followers of Christ and the Abrahamic God) were to start a "new church"
what are 3 things you'd like to see in the church statements dictating church behavior and beliefs / what are 3 things you'd definitely not want to see in the "rules of the church"?
Wide range of song from acapella old classics to the latest christian hits.
7 day a week access services everyday same time, praise worship shorten sermon then a q and a session
stop teaching the milk of salvation and focus on the meat of relationship and how to further develop it. (don't need 45 min sermons on why one should be saved directed at people who have under gone the process.
Drop the pretenses. if it is not taught in the bible IE from one or two sources then don't teach it. meaning if you need to cut and compile 10 verses to teach a doctrine, then know it is not a doctrine. it is a preference compiled from scraps of verses. however if a passage speaks to it self meaning if a principle is taught over the course of a hand full of verses a chapter two or even a whole book, that trumps and 10 verse compilation/church preferences.
open books/open accounting.
(we have open accounting now, you'd be surprised at how little is taken in verse demand from the community.)
preacher should be allowed to express political views. (currently it is not legal via a law nixon put out threatening to pull non profit status if the church picked a side.)
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 11:18 am
(March 4, 2019 at 6:53 pm)tackattack Wrote: Rather than asking for the endless list of things most of the site will list that they don't like about "church" or religion, or focusing on the belief in God or which God, etc.
I'd like to know if a new Church denomination of Christians (meaning followers of Christ and the Abrahamic God) were to start a "new church"
what are 3 things you'd like to see in the church statements dictating church behavior and beliefs / what are 3 things you'd definitely not want to see in the "rules of the church"?
Thats like asking me how I would like food I do not eat.
I don't care if you are talking about Mosques or Synagogues or Buddhist temples.
1. Don't physically harm others.
2. Don't steal stuff that does not belong to you.
3. Keep your religion out of government.
No need for a holy place of any label to state the obvious.
Outside that, what peaceful non violent people do on their own time is their business.
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 12:52 pm
Sounds to me... what we have here with the q&a and the no money buckets limited is most of your ideas of an ideal church.
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 12:57 pm
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Quote:Thats like asking me how I would like food I do not eat.
It really isn't. Tack is asking what you'd want/not want in a church, not in a church you'd attend. Houses of worship are a fact of life, and - like it or not - we all need to deal with their impact on society. You're not (so far as I'm aware) a member of your government, but you surely have opinions as to what governments should or should not do.
It's actually a brilliant question.
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 1:13 pm
(March 5, 2019 at 12:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:Thats like asking me how I would like food I do not eat.
It really isn't. Tack is asking what you'd want/not want in a church, not in a church you'd attend. Houses of worship are a fact of life, and - like it or not - we all need to deal with their impact on society. You're not (so far as I'm aware) a member of your government, but you surely have opinions as to what governments should or should not do.
It's actually a brilliant question.
Boru
Please remove the kudos, Drich. I'm not interested in your approval.
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 1:40 pm
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(March 5, 2019 at 1:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 12:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It really isn't. Tack is asking what you'd want/not want in a church, not in a church you'd attend. Houses of worship are a fact of life, and - like it or not - we all need to deal with their impact on society. You're not (so far as I'm aware) a member of your government, but you surely have opinions as to what governments should or should not do.
It's actually a brilliant question.
Boru
Please remove the kudos, Drich. I'm not interested in your approval.
Boru
please piss off boru, I will kudo whom ever I want despite their need for their approval.
Beside you self centered prick the kudo was more for the Idea that the OP had a very well though out question. Not your thought of the day ability to identify his good work!
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RE: What would you want in a church
March 5, 2019 at 1:52 pm
(March 5, 2019 at 1:40 pm)Drich Wrote: (March 5, 2019 at 1:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Please remove the kudos, Drich. I'm not interested in your approval.
Boru
please piss off boru, I will kudo whom ever I want despite their need for their approval.
Beside you self centered prick the kudo was more for the Idea that the OP had a very well though out question. Not your thought of the day ability to identify his good work!
That reply contains fourteen separate and distinct grammatical errors. I just thought you should know.
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