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No reason justifies disbelief.
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 (March 18, 2019 at 9:55 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 9:52 am)Catharsis Wrote: How do you think everything came into existence? Logic and sound reason would suggest a creator though.  (March 18, 2019 at 9:57 am)Catharsis Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 9:55 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: 'I don't know' is not only a perfectly valid answer, it's the only honest one (not that someone can't have an opinion on the available hypotheses). Agnostico made a whole thread about the argument from ignorance. No, it would not. 
You guys realize that Catharsis posted in shout box that no God exists, I think it's just a long winded troll.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari  (March 18, 2019 at 9:57 am)Catharsis Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 9:55 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: 'I don't know' is not only a perfectly valid answer, it's the only honest one (not that someone can't have an opinion on the available hypotheses). Agnostico made a whole thread about the argument from ignorance. Without credible supporting evidence your creator is fantasy.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
RE: No reason justifies disbelief.
March 18, 2019 at 10:17 am
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2019 at 10:20 am by Catharsis.)
(March 18, 2019 at 10:15 am)wyzas Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 9:57 am)Catharsis Wrote: Logic and sound reason would suggest a creator though. That's fine. I'm happy where I am in life with the creator. (March 18, 2019 at 10:14 am)tackattack Wrote: You guys realize that Catharsis posted in shout box that no God exists, I think it's just a long winded troll. Yes, I had to make them aware of their ignorance.  (March 18, 2019 at 9:57 am)Catharsis Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 9:55 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: 'I don't know' is not only a perfectly valid answer, it's the only honest one (not that someone can't have an opinion on the available hypotheses). Agnostico made a whole thread about the argument from ignorance. Show your work or that's just another unsupported assertion. If you've managed to do what no theologian before you has ever done, and produced an argument for the existence of a creator deity with sound premises and no fallacies that stands up to scrutiny. I'd really love to see it.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
(March 18, 2019 at 10:33 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 9:57 am)Catharsis Wrote: Logic and sound reason would suggest a creator though. Everything has a beginning and an end here. A beginning would suggest a creator. creator /kriːˈeɪtə/ noun noun: creator; plural noun: creators a person or thing that brings something into existence. If something has no beginning, how can it have an end? (March 18, 2019 at 10:36 am)Catharsis Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 10:33 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Show your work or that's just another unsupported assertion. If you've managed to do what no theologian before you has ever done, and produced an argument for the existence of a creator deity with sound premises and no fallacies that stands up to scrutiny. I'd really love to see it. Thanks for having a genuine go at it. Sadly, your first statement is a mere assertion, so is your second unless your definition of creator is so broad that a vacuum fluctuation would count. The last line is a question, and the only thing you could get out an 'I don't know' answer is an argument from ignorance. Incidentally, the observations and math suggest that we live in a universe without end, it won't ever 'stop', just keep getting bigger and more boring.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
(March 18, 2019 at 10:44 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(March 18, 2019 at 10:36 am)Catharsis Wrote: Everything has a beginning and an end here. Does that mean it has no beginning either? |
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