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Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
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(April 15, 2019 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote:
(April 12, 2019 at 9:22 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: OFC you are, but you're too ignorant to look into it, or even want to look into it.  You're convinced for no reason at all that it must be "atheist scholars", but it just isn't.

The overwhelming majority of the scholars who's consensus you selectively value..are believers.  Those are the people telling you, with receipts, that you're full of shit.

then provide a link of the majority believer scholars who think _______

Drich, that -is- what you've been getting.  The majority of new testament scholars are protestant christians educated at religious colleges.  It's the one bit of academia that, like so much of the NT, is full of anachronism.

You imagine that you're defending christian mythology from the atheist hordes.....

In truth, the overwhelming majority of the scholars who's consensus you selectively value..are believers. Those are the people teling you, with receipts, that you're full of shit.

Personally, I doubt that any amount of scholarship could help to dissuade you of your silly inerrantist views regarding the content and construction of magic book...but it would be nice to see you come to some sort of grip with reality on the nature of the people and positions you disagree with. You're not any kind of defender or teacher of the faith, just another uneducated sectarian twat disagreeing with his fellow christers over the most meaningless of things. They have a faith that allows them to see magic book for what it is and was and still believe. Do you?
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As ever, I appreciate the performance of more of your usual insanity. You could always go and look this up yourself, now couldn't you? It is a simple statement of fact that the overwhelming majority of scholars whose consensus you selectively value are, themselves, believers. They're the people who have been identifying anachronisms, errors, and flat out legendary fiction in magic book for all these centuries.

Whether or not it is your firmly held belief that you could (and have) corrected all of this in magic book is irrelevant to that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
(April 16, 2019 at 9:46 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: As ever, I appreciate the performance of more of your usual insanity.  You could always go and look this up yourself, now couldn't you?  It is a simple statement of fact that the overwhelming majority of scholars whose consensus you selectively value are, themselves, believers.  They're the people who have been identifying anachronisms, errors, and flat out legendary fiction in magic book for all these centuries.

Whether or not it is your firmly held belief that you could (and have) corrected all of this in magic book is irrelevant to that.

What a hypocrite in the truest sense of the word.

When ever I make a blanket statement or what seems to be an odd or off the cuff remark that does not sound right or does not read true, I almost always am asked to provide not only a citation but a ready defense.

You can't exactly google what you posted here, therefore because you made the statement you are responsible to provide a source or citation that proves you are not lying/saying anything to win an argument.

4th time now. I you believe the majority of Christian side with atheist when interpreting scripture I ak you provide some source that the majority of scholars read or interpret scripture as you have indicated. more specifically this portion of luke 1 and 2
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RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
Or maybe that's something you should have researched for yourself before imagining that you were battling atheist scholars and their positions?

-All- of the different ways that scholars have approached the construction and content of the texts have been done in the majority believing field of new testament studies. You want to bicker with me, which sucks for you..since I'm informing you that you are only bickering with them. Christians bickering with christians and then blaming it on "atheists", that train is never late.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(April 16, 2019 at 9:11 am)Drich Wrote:
(April 16, 2019 at 12:09 am)Jehanne Wrote: Okay, we're making progress here.  When was John the Baptist born?

it tells you in verse 24, so again what is the first word of verse 24. You are not getting away from verse 24 so answer my question what is the first word of verse 24?

Quote:After this his wife Elizabeth became pregnant and for five months remained in seclusion. (Luke 1:24, NIV)

Now, your point?
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RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
(April 16, 2019 at 1:47 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(April 16, 2019 at 9:11 am)Drich Wrote: it tells you in verse 24, so again what is the first word of verse 24. You are not getting away from verse 24 so answer my question what is the first word of verse 24?

Quote:After this his wife Elizabeth became pregnant and for five months remained in seclusion. (Luke 1:24, NIV)

Now, your point?

Erv says later and 15 other version say after these days Elizabeth became pregnant. 

Later, after, after these days... means verse 1-23 while Herod was alive was one time period. then Later, after, after these days... set up a new time period.. how much time? so much time Quintius is now regent/governor at the birth of Christ.

So lets review.. luke chapter 1 verse 5 used herod the great to identify the time period. so that means everthing written luke 1:1-23 happened durning the time of herod.
The verse 24
Later, after, after these days... meaning a large amount of time separates verse 23 and 24. Verse 24 begins a new time and it is marked with the borth of John which was fortold some time ago in verses 1-23.

Again how much time? the exact time was not know but enough time to have Christ being born under quintius rather than herod.

do you get it now?

(April 16, 2019 at 1:27 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Or maybe that's something you should have researched for yourself before imagining that you were battling atheist scholars and their positions?

-All- of the different ways that scholars have approached the construction and content of the texts have been done in the majority believing field of new testament studies.  You want to bicker with me, which sucks for you..since I'm informing you that you are only bickering with them.  Christians bickering with christians and then blaming it on "atheists", that train is never late.

what is there to research sport? the passage resolves itself. only pretend scholars or pretend theist who say the bible is full of errors or youtubers pretending to be both who clearly never read the bible before make the assertions you have. I am not pretending nor lying that i spent the time I have in study, and that time was not spent in a vacuum. I have had much guidance from people in the faith to jews in the faith to jews out of the faith i have studied with imams and even clerics with josephwitnesses and even Mormons. NO ONE who has ever read the bible and has a basic grasp of it thinks as you do.

Clearly you are convinced how about sharing your atheist buddy blog so I can see what you are on about.
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RE: Embellishments in the Gospel of Mark.
Sure, all of the people who disagree with your silly shit are pretend scholars, and pretend theists.  Brilliant fucking conclusion.

Maybe you should have spent less time with shamans and witchdoctors.....and more time with "pretend" scholars and their work?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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