It's A Small World After All

[Brian37]

Some rich people do get it, not enough, but some. I wish more wealthy people thought like her. Disney heiress says she was shocked at worker's conditions after visiting under cover the theme park.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/media/abi...index.html

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I don't see the advantage of more rich people thinking like Ms. Disney regarding workers' conditions if none of them do anything about it.  Bezos, Gates, Cook - they all talk a good game, none of them ever try to effect serious change.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

Henry Ford got it.


He paid the princely sum of $1 an hour.

At the time - that was huge.

He wanted his workers to be able to afford his cars.


Smart guy.

Too bad about the NAZI shit..

Heh

[Chad32]

People don't get to be billionaires by caring about poor people. They get that way by hoarding money, and avoiding taxes.

[Brian37]

People don't get to be billionaires by caring about poor people. They get that way by hoarding money, and avoiding taxes.

No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do that, less people would need government help.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

People don't get to be billionaires by caring about poor people. They get that way by hoarding money, and avoiding taxes.

No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do that, less people would need government help.

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do thtop less people would need government help.

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru

Have you ever met someone who was totally unmotivated, unskilled and uncaring about their job? Somebody who is just there for the paycheck and give not a shit for the service, product or customer?

You want to pay them the same as a guy who busts his ass for his employer?


Interesting concept.

[Brian37]

No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do that, less people would need government help.

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru

DID YOU NOT READ my post.

Food Lion "donates" meals to the community..... Sounds great on the surface. I don't care if they are going to the elderly. And actually, their adds, at least locally, are not mentioning age  in feeding people, where I live.  If giant corporations stopped using "charity" as a PR scam, and actually paid livable wages and paid taxes to fund social security and medicare that old person wouldn't need that "charity", and less people would need food stamps regardless of age. 

YES paying a livable wage IS the best charity. 

[The Grand Nudger]

Cheerfulness and bootlicking costs extra, OLB. There’s certainly a floor below which you can’t dick a person for not being uniquely motivated by the poverty wage their employer is doling out. If anything, your comments are an argument for paying people more, not the same or less.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru

DID YOU NOT READ my post.

Food Lion "donates" meals to the community..... Sounds great on the surface. I don't care if they are going to the elderly. And actually, their adds, at least locally, are not mentioning age  in feeding people, where I live.  If giant corporations stopped using "charity" as a PR scam, and actually paid livable wages and paid taxes to fund social security and medicare that old person wouldn't need that "charity", and less people would need food stamps regardless of age. 

YES paying a livable wage IS the best charity. 

Yes, I read your post.  I always read what you write before I reply to it.  I also make an effort to understand what you're getting at.

I don't see why you have an issue with Food Lion donating food to needy people.  I grasp your point about taxes going to fund social security, but that (increased wages) isn't going to help people that are hungry right now. 

And no, paying a livable wage isn't charity in any way, shape or form.  It's fair, it's just, it is ethically the right thing to do, but it isn't charity. If it were charity, Food Lion would pay people $25/hour not to come to work.

Boru