Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: September 22, 2019, 7:10 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
It's A Small World After All
#1
It's A Small World After All
Some rich people do get it, not enough, but some. I wish more wealthy people thought like her. Disney heiress says she was shocked at worker's conditions after visiting under cover the theme park.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/media/abi...index.html
Reply
#2
RE: It's A Small World After All
I don't see the advantage of more rich people thinking like Ms. Disney regarding workers' conditions if none of them do anything about it.  Bezos, Gates, Cook - they all talk a good game, none of them ever try to effect serious change.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
Reply
#3
RE: It's A Small World After All
Henry Ford got it.


He paid the princely sum of $1 an hour.

At the time - that was huge.

He wanted his workers to be able to afford his cars.


Smart guy.

Too bad about the NAZI shit..

Heh
Reply
#4
RE: It's A Small World After All
People don't get to be billionaires by caring about poor people. They get that way by hoarding money, and avoiding taxes.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

Reply
#5
RE: It's A Small World After All
(July 17, 2019 at 8:09 am)Chad32 Wrote: People don't get to be billionaires by caring about poor people. They get that way by hoarding money, and avoiding taxes.

No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do that, less people would need government help.
Reply
#6
RE: It's A Small World After All
(July 17, 2019 at 8:28 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 17, 2019 at 8:09 am)Chad32 Wrote: People don't get to be billionaires by caring about poor people. They get that way by hoarding money, and avoiding taxes.

No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do that, less people would need government help.

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
Reply
#7
RE: It's A Small World After All
(July 17, 2019 at 10:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 17, 2019 at 8:28 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do thtop less people would need government help.

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru

Have you ever met someone who was totally unmotivated, unskilled and uncaring about their job? Somebody who is just there for the paycheck and give not a shit for the service, product or customer?

You want to pay them the same as a guy who busts his ass for his employer?


Interesting concept.
Reply
#8
RE: It's A Small World After All
(July 17, 2019 at 10:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 17, 2019 at 8:28 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, it isn't about class, it is about greed. There will always bee greedy humans. I don't think all billionaires are selfish dicks. I would say though, even the ones I would not consider selfish dicks, could do a better job understanding that instead of using private charity as PR, livable wages and universal health care would actually serve them better and create that independence the rich always claim more should have.

The real problem is global in that 62 individuals and or families whom are uber billionaires have the combined wealth of 3 billion of the rest of us.

I don't think however that things will change unless the middle class and working class stand up for themselves. But to say we cant change it would be a mistake. I think when humans unite you can change things. I am not against the private sector, I am merely against monopolies and abuse of power.

It s why for example, when I see a "charity" in Food Lion, to "donate meals" to the local community, that shit pisses me off. If they pay workers a livable wage, that wouldn't be needed. And worse is that they get a tax break for doing that. So the reality is, it isn't real charity, it is just PR. The rest of us have to make up for that tax break.

The best charity would be paying wages that keep up with the cost of living. If you do that, less people would need government help.

First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru


DID YOU NOT READ my post.

Food Lion "donates" meals to the community..... Sounds great on the surface. I don't care if they are going to the elderly. And actually, their adds, at least locally, are not mentioning age  in feeding people, where I live.  If giant corporations stopped using "charity" as a PR scam, and actually paid livable wages and paid taxes to fund social security and medicare that old person wouldn't need that "charity", and less people would need food stamps regardless of age. 

YES paying a livable wage IS the best charity. 



Reply
#9
RE: It's A Small World After All
Cheerfulness and bootlicking costs extra, OLB. There’s certainly a floor below which you can’t dick a person for not being uniquely motivated by the poverty wage their employer is doling out. If anything, your comments are an argument for paying people more, not the same or less.
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for a battle to commence then KPLOW, I hit em with the illness of my quill, Im endowed..with certain unalienable skills....  

-ERB


Reply
#10
RE: It's A Small World After All
(July 17, 2019 at 10:57 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(July 17, 2019 at 10:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: First off, no one said it was about class.  Stop correcting people who said the same thing you said.  It makes you look as if you aren't paying attention.

Secondly, have you considered that donating meals to the local community might have nothing to do with wages?  These meals may be going to elderly shut-ins, the disabled, or the homeless.

Third and lastly, paying a living wage cannot be the best charity because it isn't charity in the first place.

Boru


DID YOU NOT READ my post.

Food Lion "donates" meals to the community..... Sounds great on the surface. I don't care if they are going to the elderly. And actually, their adds, at least locally, are not mentioning age  in feeding people, where I live.  If giant corporations stopped using "charity" as a PR scam, and actually paid livable wages and paid taxes to fund social security and medicare that old person wouldn't need that "charity", and less people would need food stamps regardless of age. 

YES paying a livable wage IS the best charity. 




Yes, I read your post.  I always read what you write before I reply to it.  I also make an effort to understand what you're getting at.

I don't see why you have an issue with Food Lion donating food to needy people.  I grasp your point about taxes going to fund social security, but that (increased wages) isn't going to help people that are hungry right now. 

And no, paying a livable wage isn't charity in any way, shape or form.  It's fair, it's just, it is ethically the right thing to do, but it isn't charity. If it were charity, Food Lion would pay people $25/hour not to come to work.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Banksy painting self-destructs after selling at auction for $1.4 million Tres Leches 6 231 October 7, 2018 at 7:53 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  A year after Charlottesville ........ Brian37 15 467 August 12, 2018 at 9:25 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  So After All That Tough Talk And Excuse Making Amarok 22 1061 July 9, 2018 at 5:52 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Still Crazy After All These Years..... Minimalist 41 2302 May 31, 2018 at 8:07 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  2 men wanted after blast injures 15 people at restaurant near Toronto Alexmahone 14 799 May 25, 2018 at 4:50 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  Franklin Graham Loses His Shit After Wisconsin Defeat Minimalist 9 538 April 6, 2018 at 7:25 pm
Last Post: rskovride
  So It Is Nothing New, After All Minimalist 5 522 November 30, 2017 at 1:56 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  Chicago Man Accidentally Shoots Himself in the Weiner After Robbing a Hotdog Stand Rhondazvous 6 446 November 7, 2017 at 7:30 pm
Last Post: The Industrial Atheist
  We may not be going into WW3 with Russia over Syria after all. Chad32 39 6204 July 16, 2017 at 12:13 am
Last Post: Minimalist
  Two dead after hate crime in Portland Clueless Morgan 76 14577 June 7, 2017 at 6:19 pm
Last Post: pocaracas



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)