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Would you live on terraformed Venus?
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Would you live on terraformed Venus?
Really, if Venus was terraformed to be pretty much like Earth would you go and live there? Unlike Mars, Venus has almost exact gravity pull as Earth, so there wouldn't be much of a difference in that department, although it would probably be warmer.

One way of terraforming Venus would be to build a shield in order to cover the Sun until it freezes and then warm it up a bit. So I guess Sun would always be partially shielded.
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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
Well... there's also the problem of the borked rotational period.

I've read an astronomer's comment some where that there isn't enough mass free flaoting around in the solar system to add enough energy to Venus to get its spin to anything like 'Normal'.

Not sure how much energy you'd have to put in just to get its currently 'reverse' rotation sped up, though.

Heck... throw enough 'Cassaba howitzer' rounds into the same spot to both, maybe, adding rotatonal energy into the ball as well as use the atmic energy side effect of breaking down the acid clouds into more usable forms. I think it ends up releasing more hydrogen into the sustem. Give back what's been boiled off over the last few million years.

Plus you dump commets etc for even more H20.

In all we'd have to invest a HUGE amount more energy into the project to get a Earth 2.0 but, as you say, our investments get a planet that later generations won't need genetic engineering to stay 'Human' that you've got to really do with people on Mars, Moon or other low density worlds.

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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
Would there be tacos?
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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
(August 3, 2019 at 11:52 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: ... although it would probably be warmer.


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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
Yup. Pretty much any other place we set up a colony I’d love to go. Get there first, before the rush.

Already told the wife that if we ever set up a credible off world site I’d sell everything we own to buy the fam a ticket.
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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
Better bring some SPF 10,000,000 sunblock.
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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
I would imagine any place we could find, or create, that' as close to Earth as possible, would be fine to live on. Although if we don't learn to take care of the planet, the next one will just wind up like this one.

I wonder, if we left, how long would it take for the planet to replenish itself. I know vegetation is really good at overgrowing cities in mere years, once people leave.
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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
(August 3, 2019 at 12:03 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Well... there's also the problem of the borked rotational period.

I've read an astronomer's comment some where that there isn't enough mass free flaoting around in the solar system to add enough energy to Venus to get its spin to anything like 'Normal'.

Not sure how much energy you'd have to put in just to get its currently 'reverse' rotation sped up, though.

Heck... throw enough 'Cassaba howitzer' rounds into the same spot to both, maybe, adding rotatonal energy into the ball as well as use the atmic energy side effect of breaking down the acid clouds into more usable forms. I think it ends up releasing more hydrogen into the sustem. Give back what's been boiled off over the last few million years.

Plus you dump commets etc for even more H20.

In all we'd have to invest a HUGE amount more energy into the project to get a Earth 2.0 but, as you say, our investments get a planet that later generations won't need genetic engineering to stay 'Human' that you've got to really do with people on Mars, Moon or other low density worlds.

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You can place large sunshades in around a 30k km orbit around Venus.  These would shadow any given area for appropriate lengths once every 24 hours during the Venusian day and create artificial night.   Similarly large reflectors in the same orbit can illuminate any given area once every 12 hours during Venusian night and create artificial day.

Large reflectors and sunshades can be very light, made of aluminized synthetic membrane small fraction of millimeters thick.  Such a sunshade 1000 km on a side would still only weigh a few thousand tons.   Preserving the appearance of an earth like circadian rhythm would not be totally insurmountable even with present day technology let along with an technology equal to fully terraforming the earth.

The fact that Venus rotates backwards is no problem.  Nothing I can think of depends on any planet rotating prograde.
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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
We could help it to replenish itself even faster than it would if we’d have abandoned it.

We’re nature’s most successful gardeners.
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for a battle to commence then KPLOW, I hit em with the illness of my quill, Im endowed..with certain unalienable skills....  

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RE: Would you live on terraformed Venus?
(August 3, 2019 at 1:14 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I would imagine any place we could find, or create, that' as close to Earth as possible, would be fine to live on. Although if we don't learn to take care of the planet, the next one will just wind up like this one.

I wonder, if we left, how long would it take for the planet to replenish itself. I know vegetation is really good at overgrowing cities in mere years, once people leave.

Depends on what aspect you are thinking of replenishing.

Restoration of the climate until all effects of anthropogenic influences are suppressed?  Tens of thousands of years.

Replenishing of full biodiversity lost in the last 15K years?  Millions to ten of million years

Replenishing of fossil fuel consumed? Tens to hundreds of million years. 

Replenishing of mineral deposits that are continually but slowly formed through geological processes, like gold or nickel?  Millions to billions of years.

Replenishing of mineral resources like iron that formed under particular conditions unique to one past age of the earth?  Never.
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