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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 10, 2019 at 8:24 pm
(October 10, 2019 at 8:05 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: But I don't think books are the only way one can convey, or receive, a "serious message." Reading a book doesn't automatically make one more intellectual or "more serious" than someone who prefers to watch a movie.
In my case, I don't trust serious messages which are conveyed through the usual emotional impacts of movies. I would rather assess them without that kind of potential distortion.
However, if it's some story rather than information, movies are better. But again, I consider stories as entertainments primarily.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 10, 2019 at 9:19 pm
I couldn't name a Scorsese movie at gunpoint.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 10, 2019 at 9:31 pm
(October 10, 2019 at 9:19 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I couldn't name a Scorsese movie at gunpoint.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 10, 2019 at 9:42 pm
(October 10, 2019 at 9:19 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I couldn't name a Scorsese movie at gunpoint.
Hugo is one I enjoyed.
Others are Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, The Aviator, Gangs of New York....
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 10, 2019 at 10:31 pm
(October 10, 2019 at 8:24 pm)Alan V Wrote: In my case, I don't trust serious messages which are conveyed through the usual emotional impacts of movies. I would rather assess them without that kind of potential distortion.
However, if it's some story rather than information, movies are better. But again, I consider stories as entertainments primarily.
How do you differentiate between the tactics authors use from the tactics directors use, outside of the obvious difference in medium?
And how does that affect the seriousness of the message?
I think all forms of art can be entertainment and still convey a serious message, if done correctly.
That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with The Avengers... but to call it art? I'd say that's a stretch.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 11, 2019 at 5:32 am
(October 10, 2019 at 9:42 pm)Alan V Wrote: (October 10, 2019 at 9:19 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I couldn't name a Scorsese movie at gunpoint.
Hugo is one I enjoyed.
Others are Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, The Aviator, Gangs of New York....
I've got high hopes for The Irishman.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 11, 2019 at 5:40 am
(October 10, 2019 at 10:31 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: (October 10, 2019 at 8:24 pm)Alan V Wrote: In my case, I don't trust serious messages which are conveyed through the usual emotional impacts of movies. I would rather assess them without that kind of potential distortion.
However, if it's some story rather than information, movies are better. But again, I consider stories as entertainments primarily.
How do you differentiate between the tactics authors use from the tactics directors use, outside of the obvious difference in medium?
And how does that affect the seriousness of the message?
I think all forms of art can be entertainment and still convey a serious message, if done correctly.
That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with The Avengers... but to call it art? I'd say that's a stretch.
But you can't really call it 'not art' either, can you? Art - irrespective of medium - is intensely personal.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 11, 2019 at 6:15 am
I consider the films art. Art comes in many shapes, forms, and styles, but there’s no denying the effort that went into the costume design, the score, the writing, the cgi, etc.
Are they poetic with a deeper meaning? Nah not really.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 11, 2019 at 6:16 am
Okay, I haven't seen a Scorsese film. Willingly, at least. The wives sometimes had control of the remote.
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RE: Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are "not cinema"
October 11, 2019 at 6:50 am
You should thank your wives. Scorsese is brilliant.
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