Alzheimers in heaven.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

In 2008 I took Mom to vote in the elections. I asked her who she wanted to vote for. She said "not the black guy!"

"Okay, so you want to vote a straight Democratic ticket then?"

"Yes, of course."

"Done and done."

[Drich]

Who cleans up after the droolers in heaven?

Why is it a reward to spend eternity as a mindless husk?

No fair doing a respawn to earlier in life.

You is who you is when you die.

Look at this life like if it where the matrix. Our brains being a biological/Spiritual link or modem of sorts communicating and translating electtical input. In that our brains do not really store our personage or memories those are all stored in our real selves/soul on god's side of death/eternity. If and when we have a modem problem like alzheimer's or some other brain damaged mallity the problem is with the modem in our bio physical selves not in out actua spiritual being in Heaven.

So no our problem here do not follow us in heaven. these bodies are breed into corruption meaning they are literally designed to fail and this failure was not meant to be representative of our eternal being/soul. That is why Christ Himself say fear not the one who can destroy the body but the one who can destroy the body and soul in Hell.

[onlinebiker]

Who cleans up after the droolers in heaven?

Why is it a reward to spend eternity as a mindless husk?

No fair doing a respawn to earlier in life.

You is who you is when you die.

Look at this life like if it where the matrix. Our brains being a biological/Spiritual link or modem of sorts communicating and translating electtical input. In that our brains do not really store our personage or memories those are all stored in our real selves/soul on god's side of death/eternity. If and when we have a modem problem like alzheimer's or some other brain damaged mallity the problem is with the modem in our bio physical selves not in out actua spiritual being in Heaven.

So no our problem here do not follow us in heaven. these bodies are breed into corruption meaning they are literally designed to fail and this failure was not meant to be representative of our eternal being/soul. That is why Christ Himself say fear not the one who can destroy the body but the one who can destroy the body and soul in Hell.

It' s easy when you make it all up.


Reality isn't that tidy.

[Chad32]

I was always told you'd be "more you than you ever were" in heaven. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. If he's going to take out all the parts of me that he doesn't like, leaving only what he approves of, I may as well have alzheimers. I am the combination of all my parts. If you strip away too much, especially without my consent, then it won't be me in heaven. It'll just be a stripped down facsimile that calls itself Chad. That's not what I call a reward.

I've certainly heard different versions of "heaven will be better" before. However, being told you'll be "more than you were" does not mean you'll be less than you were, which is what your comment suggests.

You do bring up an interesting topic of identity. What makes you, you, and how much can be changed and removed before you're no longer you. From a first-person perspective your sense of self is wrapped up with your memories, often referred to as autobiographical memories. So, I would argue that as long as memories are left intact, almost everything else about you can change in heaven and you'll still be you.

That being said, are there memories which are in your best interest to have removed if heaven is to be a rewarding place? Take for example PTSD, which is intimately wrapped up with the memory of an event. Supposing there is no consent, should a deity remove negative memories of future heaven residents?

He'd pretty much need to remove any memory of mine having to do with people I liked who didn't get into heaven, and any memory I had of the parts in the bible that showed god being horrible. Memories would have to be affected, and if memories are a part of who I am, then it would effect part of me. I guess what it comes down to is, I don't trust this concept of heaven, if it depends on the whims of an individual I don't like.

We know our personage and memories are stored in the brain, because you can alter a person's brain, and they can become a new person, with different memories.

[John 6IX Breezy]

He'd pretty much need to remove any memory of mine having to do with people I liked who didn't get into heaven, and any memory I had of the parts in the bible that showed god being horrible. Memories would have to be affected, and if memories are a part of who I am, then it would effect part of me. I guess what it comes down to is, I don't trust this concept of heaven, if it depends on the whims of an individual I don't like.

We know our personage and memories are stored in the brain, because you can alter a person's brain, and they can become a new person, with different memories.

"For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind" (ESV, Isaiah 65:17).

I personally don't know how I feel about the topic. In theory, it makes sense. The whole point of salvation is to pry away sin from the sinner. Given that sin is treated as part of our identity, it follows that removing the memory of it is an important step in the process. The Bible definitely suggests a need of transforming the sinner to a saint. I have no idea what persists of the person once that change occurs. That's an issue that exists in many places. To what extend is someone with depression still the same person after taking antidepressants? We like to believe they've changed, but are still the same person.

[Rhizomorph13]

In Heaven Everything is Fine

[Macoleco]

Is it possible to euthanize someone with dementia/Alzheimer’s ? In my country I can’t but I would like to take them someplace I can if it ever happens to them

[no one]

What if they have a reservation to dine with Lucifer? Would they even know where they were?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Is it possible to euthanize someone with dementia/Alzheimer’s ? In my country I can’t but I would like to take them someplace I can if it ever happens to them

It's not so much suffering as it is the person that was is gone.

[Macoleco]

Is it possible to euthanize someone with dementia/Alzheimer’s ? In my country I can’t but I would like to take them someplace I can if it ever happens to them

It's not so much suffering as it is the person that was is gone.

It definitely causes suffering. Who will take care of them? And what is even the point of living if they are just an empty shell? It causes pain to themselves and those around them.