Islam slave trade

[Deesse23]

It's certainly not a European invention. LOL. Then again, no one worth listening to is suggesting that it is.

*cough*AtlasS33*cough*

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You stubbornly repeating a lie doesnt make it true. Whishful thinking doesnt work, as well as stomping your feet, but who am i talking to? A man who has an invisible friend.
So, how did the Mamluks achieve anything else than to stop the mongol expansion into Egypt?
How comes the mongol empire increased in size for 30 more years and existed for more than 100 more years, before it collapsed due to internal subdivision, because it became too big?
Did or did not Hulegu take most mongol troops with him (iirc 4/5 tumens) before the battle, so that the mamluks fought only 20% of the mongol troops originally assigned to conquer the Levant and Egypt? What happened between Baibars and Qutuz after Ain Jalut, please tell us? Who was Qutuz´slave master? A christian, or a muslim mamluk himself? Wow, the muslim mamluks slave kings who had muslim mamluk slaves?! Shocking!  Who was Baibars´ slave master? A christian or an muslim Ayyubid emir? Wow, Ayyubids, also muslims having muslim slaves.

christian culture, and i am able to admit its wrong doings. Why cant you? What makes you so special that we should absolve you and Islam of for all its atrocities? You know why, its because you still dont want to throw off the shackles of your vile rel...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk_Sultanate_(Cairo)

While Mamluks were purchased, their status was above ordinary slaves,

Please help me out, what you you call someone you buy? "Slave" maybe? Is it part of the pinnacle of human civilisazion, of Islam, to buy and sell people? Do you consider slavery of whatever form to be an achievement of Islam? Being a muslim, are you proud that muslims bought and sold other muslims?
Since you failed to reply to my objections, i will ask again:
Did Mamluks buy Mamluks?
Were Mamluks bought by Abbasids?
Was slavery, aka. buying and selling other human beings custom in islam?
Do you think buying, owning, selling other people as property is morally defensible?

Untrue.
Europeans (primarily the Portuguese, British, and Dutch) did conduct slave raids along the West African coast; Especially in the early phases of the of the TST.

In regards to the captives who were sold to slavers by African middlemen--Africans did not subscribe to  the notion of a homogeneous "African" or "Black" ethnicity--No reason why they would considering the sheer amount of ethnicity/genetic diversity among people living on the continent. That's a box Eurocentrists invented and tossed them all of them in.

Worth noting, when running with the "they sold themselves" narrative. For the most part, leaders and merchants were selling and trading captives/POWs they regarded as foreign; Not subjects of their own tribes/kingdoms.

The "they sold themselves" narrative is used to mask one's own acts; or Tu Quoque argument:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

One of the arts of bellydancing in debates and discussion; like saying "why care about African slaves? they brought slavery upon themselves"; very unethical if you think about it.

The word is this: white people gave humanity a permanent headache via the invention of atomic bombs, enslaving Africa and massacring north and south America.

And yet again you fail spectacularly, demonstrating that you are unwilling to learn. Remember when you accused me of tu quoque and i explained to you that you are wrong? You are wrong again, just in the same way as you were, you idiot.

Athene didnt mention Africans selling other Africans in order to silence criticism of slavery. He doesnt apologize slavery, you do. You are apologizing muslim slavery. Just scroll up, and look how you tried to apologize with Mamluks being "better than slaves", although they were bought, owned and sold like property, although they themselves had slaves. Athene didnt say "why care about African slaves". Thats a strawman fallacy of you. He did it to point out your bigotry and slavery apologetics, just like i do, and will continue to do, fucking bigot.

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The word is this: white people gave humanity a permanent headache via the invention of atomic bombs, enslaving Africa and massacring north and south America.

Oh, look, he is a racist too.
Well, not surprising, really, is it?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The word is this: white people gave humanity a permanent headache via the invention of atomic bombs, enslaving Africa and massacring north and south America.

You left out Oceania.  Don't you care about those people?

Boru

[Deesse23]

The word is this: white people gave humanity a permanent headache via the invention of atomic bombs, enslaving Africa and massacring north and south America.

You left out Oceania.  Don't you care about those people?

Boru

Dont forget the arctic and how they are slaughtering seals. I am not even talking about penguins, poor little penguins!
And then they went to the Moon, and i bet if here would have been any people these white basterds would have enslaved them too, just like all the brown people, the kinda brown Atlas is of course, the other browns only count half.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Japanese tried to develop the atomic bomb, as did the Germans. If the IJN had the atomic bomb on Dec. 7th, 1941, they would have used it at Pearl Harbor.

[WinterHold]

The word is this: white people gave humanity a permanent headache via the invention of atomic bombs, enslaving Africa and massacring north and south America.

You left out Oceania.  Don't you care about those people?

Boru

Australia and NZ -aka Oceania- are indeed included in continents that was hit by the bloody raids  Europe launched against the world.

[EgoDeath]

*cough*AtlasS33*cough*

I don't entertain the delusions of the mentally ill

[WinterHold]

The Japanese tried to develop the atomic bomb, as did the Germans. If the IJN had the atomic bomb on Dec. 7th, 1941, they would have used it at Pearl Harbor.

The word "tried to develop" is way different than the words "developed+packaged into a weapon+used it twice".

In other words the U.S and its supporters are guilty before the trial even start.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Japanese tried to develop the atomic bomb, as did the Germans. If the IJN had the atomic bomb on Dec. 7th, 1941, they would have used it at Pearl Harbor.

The word "tried to develop" is way different than the words "developed+packaged into a weapon+used it twice".

In other words the U.S and its supporters are guilty before the trial even start.

They wanted the atomic bomb. They would have used it if they had developed it. Get over it. Humans, for the most part, suck.

[WinterHold]

The word "tried to develop" is way different than the words "developed+packaged into a weapon+used it twice".

In other words the U.S and its supporters are guilty before the trial even start.

They wanted the atomic bomb. They would have used it if they had developed it. Get over it. Humans, for the most part, suck.

You get over the bandits called the "U.S Army"; or should I say the "oil suckers"? the U.S army is a terrorist organization, it carried murder and mass killing around the globe, supported torture and even said publicly that torture works -officially-, the supported monsters like the Sauds,they are feared because they burn the families of their foes to crisp; the U.S army got so high on its murders that it bombed Japan with the first nuclear bomb ever made.

Now in the future; this is the legacy your founding fathers gave as a present to me, and they trolled you enough to make you defend such a foul act.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

LOL...