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October 22, 2019 at 7:19 am
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 22, 2019 at 7:22 am
Is the video in Latin?
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October 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 26, 2019 at 2:43 pm
All the slaves sold to Europeans on the West African coast were the prisoners of Africans.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 26, 2019 at 2:57 pm
(October 26, 2019 at 2:43 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: All the slaves sold to Europeans on the West African coast were the prisoners of Africans.
Yup. The Pacific slave trade was a much darker affair (no pun intended), but doesn't get nearly as much notice.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 26, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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So are we allowed to criticize Islam without being called xenophobes?
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 26, 2019 at 4:33 pm
(October 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: For the readers of the topic; I -atlass- responded to the rubbish xenophobia & islamophoebic posts which the user -Fake Messiah- was vomiting everywhere in the shoutbox. You, Atlass, are a fucking bigot and know shit about history, especially about muslim history. You are, probably on purpose, spreading propaganda, which makes you a liar as well. Its sickening to see how you bend over backwards to whitewash your religion, how you sell out your humanity and integrity for just another violent religion. Shame on you. 
Oh well, i bet you feel persecuted by me now. 
(October 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Then, after hundreds of years, a Muslim empire managed to kill the mongol invasions to the world by defeating the mongols and save the world Mamluks didnt save the world, they saved their own asses. At the time of Ain Jalut, Hulegu had to pull out most Mogol troops and left only one tumen in syria. This was due to the fact that his brother Möngke died and succession had to be sorted out. If Hulegu didnt have to do this, the Mamluks would have been steamrolled. The very same situation saved europe after the crushing defeat of polish and hungarian knights somw 20y earlier.
(October 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: ; this Islamic empire was ruled by ex-slaves that the tolerance of Islam led them to rule even rule the empire: Who were the slaveholders of the Mamluks? Who enslaved the Mamluks? The muslim Abbasids maybe? Was slavery probably custom in the abbasid caliphate? 
(October 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Decensy suggests that you mention real, authentic history instead of bellydancing around texts while cherry picking; it's not good for the head You of all people saying this is quite...........fascinating, isnt it?
So, whom did the muslim Abbasids enslave?
Did the arab slave trade under muslim rule exist or not?
Did muslims during the barbary slave trade enslave christians?
Did muslims enslave and indoctrinate kids to become Janissaries, made fanatics out of them, and still forbade them to have families so that they would be loyal to their corps?
You didnt really expect your disgusting lies and propaganda to remain unanswered, did you?
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 26, 2019 at 5:09 pm
(October 26, 2019 at 3:25 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: @AtlasS33
So are we allowed to criticize Islam without being called xenophobes?
Don't see why not. We can criticize Islam for being a bog standard religion without criticizing Muslims. We can criticize Muslims for the stupid things they do in the name of their religion.
In this respect, Islam is nothing special.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 26, 2019 at 5:32 pm
(October 26, 2019 at 5:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 26, 2019 at 3:25 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: @AtlasS33
So are we allowed to criticize Islam without being called xenophobes?
Don't see why not. We can criticize Islam for being a bog standard religion without criticizing Muslims. We can criticize Muslims for the stupid things they do in the name of their religion.
In this respect, Islam is nothing special.
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Glad you think so. Only if others felt the same. I remember when Ben Affleck threw a fit over Maher and Harris criticizing Islam on Real Time.
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RE: Islam slave trade
October 27, 2019 at 12:44 am
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(October 26, 2019 at 3:25 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: @AtlasS33
So are we allowed to criticize Islam without being called xenophobes?
Yes. When the motive of your criticism is not xenophobic
(October 26, 2019 at 4:33 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: (October 26, 2019 at 2:23 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Then, after hundreds of years, a Muslim empire managed to kill the mongol invasions to the world by defeating the mongols and save the world Mamluks didnt save the world, they saved their own asses. At the time of Ain Jalut, Hulegu had to pull out most Mogol troops and left only one tumen in syria. This was due to the fact that his brother Möngke died and succession had to be sorted out. If Hulegu didnt have to do this, the Mamluks would have been steamrolled. The very same situation saved europe after the crushing defeat of polish and hungarian knights somw 20y earlier.
Yes; they did. They defeated the mongols and ended their rein of terror.
Quote:(10 hours ago)AtlasS33 Wrote: Wrote:Decensy suggests that you mention real, authentic history instead of bellydancing around texts while cherry picking; it's not good for the head
You of all people saying this is quite...........fascinating, isnt it?
So, whom did the muslim Abbasids enslave?
Did the arab slave trade under muslim rule exist or not?
Did muslims during the barbary slave trade enslave christians?
Did muslims enslave and indoctrinate kids to become Janissaries, made fanatics out of them, and still forbade them to have families so that they would be loyal to their corps?
You didnt really expect your disgusting lies and propaganda to remain unanswered, did you?
I don't know..
TBH Christians of Europe made a lot of people angry..
(October 26, 2019 at 5:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 26, 2019 at 3:25 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: @AtlasS33
So are we allowed to criticize Islam without being called xenophobes?
Don't see why not. We can criticize Islam for being a bog standard religion without criticizing Muslims. We can criticize Muslims for the stupid things they do in the name of their religion.
In this respect, Islam is nothing special.
Boru
Criticize. But always stay true to yourself and ask yourself: what kicked off the big bang?
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