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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 12:28 pm
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(October 24, 2019 at 10:30 am)Drich Wrote: Wow!!!!
Is this just Fake news or are you just retarded?
You facts are 1/2 right in that members of congress where hold up in a secrete meeting but there where no republicans in the room. it was all dims trying to get their story straight or find some way to impeach trump and doing so with out due process that an official impeachment proceedings would mandate. Don't get me wrong the dims have tried to impeach trump officially but they are over 100 votes short of starting the process legally... so rather than things like the constitution and the law of the united states stop them they went on with this secrete partisan meeting.. That is when the republicans stormed the closed door meeting in the secrete 'room'.
Well, it was a closed-door meeting of the House Intelligence Committee. There are 9 Republicans on that committee, so there were 9 Republicans were permitted to be in that room. All other Republicans and Democrats were not allowed, because that's how a hearing in the SCIF works. It's disingenuous to imply Democrats did it without anyone's knowledge and were not permitting any Republicans in the room.
The GOP investigations into Benghazi were mostly conducted behind closed doors with GOP Rep Trey Gowdy arguing that secrecy was "essential to get at the truth and prevent showboating for the cameras." That was when Republicans controlled the committee, so the situation was flipped; most Dems were not allowed in, but many still were because they were voting members of that committee.
Questions?
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 12:52 pm
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(October 24, 2019 at 10:30 am)Drich Wrote: Wow!!!!
Is this just Fake news or are you just retarded?
You facts are 1/2 right in that members of congress where hold up in a secrete meeting but there where no republicans in the room. it was all dims trying to get their story straight or find some way to impeach trump and doing so with out due process that an official impeachment proceedings would mandate. Don't get me wrong the dims have tried to impeach trump officially but they are over 100 votes short of starting the process legally... so rather than things like the constitution and the law of the united states stop them they went on with this secrete partisan meeting.. That is when the republicans stormed the closed door meeting in the secrete 'room'.
Stop and look at all the condemnation you where slinging at the republicans when you thought it was us who was doing wrong.... now look at your backpedaling and the excuses and name calling you will do to try and justify the same evil acts you were going to use to justify a coupe.
What hypocritical people most 'dims' are.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-law...roceedings
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-...019-10-23/
You really are a numbwit.
As has been explained to you, there WERE Republicans in the room - the ones that had the right to be there. When the Judiciary committee interviews people, that show-boater Gaetz will have every right to be there.
'Due process' doesn't apply until the Senate trial. This is an investigation. It wouldn't be taking place at all if that lickspittle brownnoser Barr had done his job.
No vote of the full House is required to start an impeachment inquiry 'legally'. The process is whatever the House majority decides. There are absolutely NO laws - including the Constitution - dictating when or how the House begins an investigation into possible impeachment. I would be delighted if you could show me otherwise.
The Republicans stormed the meeting because they have nothing substantive to offer in defense of Trump's actions, so they're reduced to this kind of shameful, childish prank.
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 1:25 pm
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(October 24, 2019 at 10:40 am)Divinity Wrote: (October 24, 2019 at 10:30 am)Drich Wrote: Wow!!!!
Is this just Fake news or are you just retarded?
You facts are 1/2 right in that members of congress where hold up in a secrete meeting but there where no republicans in the room. it was all dims trying to get their story straight or find some way to impeach trump and doing so with out due process that an official impeachment proceedings would mandate. Don't get me wrong the dims have tried to impeach trump officially but they are over 100 votes short of starting the process legally... so rather than things like the constitution and the law of the united states stop them they went on with this secrete partisan meeting.. That is when the republicans stormed the closed door meeting in the secrete 'room'.
Stop and look at all the condemnation you where slinging at the republicans when you thought it was us who was doing wrong.... now look at your backpedaling and the excuses and name calling you will do to try and justify the same evil acts you were going to use to justify a coupe.
What hypocritical people most 'dims' are.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-law...roceedings
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-...019-10-23/
Wow, you're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? Are you sure you're able to walk and talk at the same time? Because that seems like a bit much for you. No surprise to see the dumbest mother fucker on the planet come in and fuck his mother.
THERE WERE REPUBLICANS IN THE ROOM OTHER THAN THE ONES WHO ILLEGALLY BARGED INTO THE SCIF! ONES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE! REPUBLICANS LIKE DEVIN FUCKING NUNES. Republicans were PART OF THE PROCEEDINGS. Republicans were ASKING QUESTIONS, and had as much time as Democrats.
You know, you really should learn to SHUT YOUR GODDAMN MOUTH once in a while, because when you open it, you remove all doubt that you are TRULY the Dumbest Motherrfucker alive. One day you'll win a Darwin award, I'm sure of it.
(October 24, 2019 at 10:34 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If Drich had any brain cells, he would have had a stroke.
Pretty sure he has a stroke every time he thinks of Donald Trump, if you catch my drift.
You mean This DEVIN FuNK'N NUNES????
https://video.foxnews.com/v/609689740400...show-clips
He is telling the world the reason for this barg in is because they (your dims) would not share any of the documentation source material nor anything else with the republicans!!! they would even withhold and have dim's only sub meetings and shared information they completely withheld.
Maybe if you would have look at the source material i provided rather than wanting/waiting to be triggered like in heat sow, you could have saved a little face when I showed you again just how wrong it was for the dims to hold this meeting in secrete to begin with..
I mean do you not understand that there is to be a vote for your dims to legally do the impeachment investigation? do you understand they are 100 votes shy of legally doing this investigation? which means this investigation is illegal as hell!!! That is why no one is doing anything about the republican bashing in the doors of the ultra secrete meeting room!!
BECAUSE THE DIMS ARE NOT OFFICIALLY SUPPOSED TO BE THERE!!!!
You are an adult let pretend to be a semi intelligent one for a moment this means put down the curse words and just think for a second. IF what the dims had done was on the up and up/constitutionally supported why was this meeting held behind closed doors? why weren't ALL the republican members of the house intel committee allowed to be apart of the meeting??? (the committee nunes is apart of that allows him to be there?) Where are the president's representation? You know the president's legal team, like the one nixon had and clinton had at their impeachment hearings? they were not there because this is not a legal hearing this is a lynch mob, very similar to the one that Got christ crucified. as they too broke all of their own rules to try and convict christ in the middle of night behind closed doors.
here is what another committee republican member had to say:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1187032991996039169
"Adam Schiff just SHUT DOWN his secret underground impeachment hearing after I led a group of Republicans into the room. Now he's threatening me with an Ethics complaint! I'm on the Armed Services Cmte but being blocked from the Dept. Asst. SecDef's testimony. This is a SHAM!"
Rep. Roger Marshall, R-Kan., told reporters that Schiff left the room without letting Marshall or other non-committee Republicans hear testimony.
Do you see the difference in how I respond to you verse how you just off the cuff curse and show how nasty of a person you are to try and intimidate and or bully me?
If you or your party was in the right don't you think you could find more primary source material to post? something from those members of your party who are there, to make your case for you??
Rather all you have are two words you seem to use over and over. "stupid and fucking" SF this SF that You are a SF... You SF SF SF SF SF... and on it goes. cause that is all you have. slow witted intimidation tactics..
Where I'm from... when a person in a conversation has to resort to this level of SF conversation they not only know they've lost the discussion but any and all sense of integrity or personal dignity, so all that is left is an SF attempt to try and save their pride.
If you go off cursing again I will assume you desperately need your pride as a point personal survival and will simply let you have it. Because no matter how stupid you think I am nor how much fucking I do.. I do not need to crushh you or the pride you desperately are trying to hang on to just because I/we are right.
I as a "right" american do not need to force someone like you into thinking the way I do. You can have your SF opinion and it will not affect me so long as me and people like me show up and vote to keep america great. (which like it or not keeps you in the SF business.)
(October 24, 2019 at 12:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 24, 2019 at 10:30 am)Drich Wrote: Wow!!!!
Is this just Fake news or are you just retarded?
You facts are 1/2 right in that members of congress where hold up in a secrete meeting but there where no republicans in the room. it was all dims trying to get their story straight or find some way to impeach trump and doing so with out due process that an official impeachment proceedings would mandate. Don't get me wrong the dims have tried to impeach trump officially but they are over 100 votes short of starting the process legally... so rather than things like the constitution and the law of the united states stop them they went on with this secrete partisan meeting.. That is when the republicans stormed the closed door meeting in the secrete 'room'.
Stop and look at all the condemnation you where slinging at the republicans when you thought it was us who was doing wrong.... now look at your backpedaling and the excuses and name calling you will do to try and justify the same evil acts you were going to use to justify a coupe.
What hypocritical people most 'dims' are.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-law...roceedings
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...story.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-...019-10-23/
You really are a numbwit.
As has been explained to you, there WERE Republicans in the room - the ones that had the right to be there. When the Judiciary committee interviews people, that show-boater Gaetz will have every right to be there.
'Due process' doesn't apply until the Senate trial. This is an investigation. It wouldn't be taking place at all if that lickspittle brownnoser Barr had done his job.
No vote of the full House is required to start an impeachment inquiry 'legally'. The process is whatever the House majority decides. There are absolutely NO laws - including the Constitution - dictating when or how the House begins an investigation into possible impeachment. I would be delighted if you could show me otherwise.
The Republicans stormed the meeting because they have nothing substantive to offer in defense of Trump's actions, so they're reduced to this kind of shameful, childish prank.
Boru
SF'er see post above.
In short Nunes said they would not release the transcripts to the rest of the house. which is a problem as nothing discussed in that room whether there was a token rep presence or not was still under a cloak of secrecy. The reps busted into the meeting demanding to make the dims account for what was being said. Which all should be a matter of public record anyway!
(October 24, 2019 at 12:28 pm)Aegon Wrote: (October 24, 2019 at 10:30 am)Drich Wrote: Wow!!!!
Is this just Fake news or are you just retarded?
You facts are 1/2 right in that members of congress where hold up in a secrete meeting but there where no republicans in the room. it was all dims trying to get their story straight or find some way to impeach trump and doing so with out due process that an official impeachment proceedings would mandate. Don't get me wrong the dims have tried to impeach trump officially but they are over 100 votes short of starting the process legally... so rather than things like the constitution and the law of the united states stop them they went on with this secrete partisan meeting.. That is when the republicans stormed the closed door meeting in the secrete 'room'.
Well, it was a closed-door meeting of the House Intelligence Committee. There are 9 Republicans on that committee, so there were 9 Republicans were permitted to be in that room. All other Republicans and Democrats were not allowed, because that's how a hearing in the SCIF works. It's disingenuous to imply Democrats did it without anyone's knowledge and were not permitting any Republicans in the room.
The GOP investigations into Benghazi were mostly conducted behind closed doors with GOP Rep Trey Gowdy arguing that secrecy was "essential to get at the truth and prevent showboating for the cameras." That was when Republicans controlled the committee, so the situation was flipped; most Dems were not allowed in, but many still were because they were voting members of that committee.
Questions? It was closed door only because it was to protect the whistle blowers identity, but over a week ago it was decided the testimony was no longer pertinent, yet the dims kept this console open to plot and discuss other impeachment tactics. To which is not a legal use of the privlidges this particular committee.
All 9 republicans wrote and signed a letter confirming the content was no supposed to be of a secretive nature and what was being discussed shuld have been public domain discussion.
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/118...25/photo/1
What exacerbated the situation was the fact that none of the transcripts where made available without a democratic scaperone for committee members and no transcripts where made available at all for any republican members. which in effect seals the discussion.
Again the house is over 100 votes shy of making this an official investigation which means what they are doing is not constitutionally supported. which again is why the republicans of the house was allowed to burst into that closed door meeting in that secure meeting room. If they did this and the dims where legally supposed to be in that room then every member of the house who entered could have been arrested by the internal house police.
rather what did shifty schiff do? He ran out as soon as the doors open like a roach when someone turns on the lights!
Oh and the room was not limited to 9 members of the house there where a few other qualified to be there that were refused entry:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1187032991996039169
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 1:51 pm
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Quote:Oh and the room was not limited to 9 members of the house there where a few other qualified to be there that were refused entry:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1187032991996039169
Try to understand this. Byrne is NOT a member of the Intelligence Committee. This was a meeting OF the Intelligence Committee. It makes no difference who was being deposed - Byrne had no right to be there.
Again, the House has the right to conduct this inquiry in any manner they see fit. No House vote is required to make this investigation official. Show me where in the Constitution it says otherwise (I'll save you some time - you can't).
Quit bellyaching, you pathetic little schoolgirl.
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 1:53 pm
(October 24, 2019 at 1:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Again, the House has the right to conduct this inquiry in any manner they see fit. Quit bellyaching, you pathetic little schoolgirl.
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What'd schoolgirls ever do to you, to compare them to Drich?
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 1:56 pm
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(October 24, 2019 at 1:53 pm)Divinity Wrote: (October 24, 2019 at 1:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Again, the House has the right to conduct this inquiry in any manner they see fit. Quit bellyaching, you pathetic little schoolgirl.
Boru
What'd schoolgirls ever do to you, to compare them to Drich?
Refused to show me their knickers. It's been 43 years, but it still hurts.
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 3:42 pm
So Trump impeachment now inevitable as witnesses confirm there was discussion of a quid pro quo involving military aid. An impeachable offence.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...nt/600559/
Quote:Ambassador William Taylor’s testimony to House investigators on Tuesday didn’t answer every question about the Ukraine scandal, but it answered the big one: Will President Donald Trump be impeached?
Impeachment is now effectively inevitable. Taylor’s testimony fleshed out the biggest open questions, including whether there was a quid pro quo with Ukraine (there was), what it involved (military aid), and what Trump wanted (investigations of the Biden family and the 2016 election.) Congress has now heard from career civil servants and from political appointees, all telling a similar story, and Taylor removed the last scintilla of doubt. With that, it’s all but impossible to imagine a scenario in which House Democrats don’t vote to impeach the president.
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 3:49 pm
The most fundamental reason why many republicans don't want to impeach Trump is because they believe it is fundamentally not wrong to do anything without regard to morality, legality, or public welfare to benefit oneself.
They think concern for anything - decorum, legality, welfare of other - that is not in direct service of private interest is fundamentally socialist.
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 3:49 pm
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But this is clearly some nefarious plot of the radical, liberal left. Especially, since William Taylor was first brought into the State Department when Reagan was president, was made Ambassador to Ukraine under GW Bush and was called out of retirement by Mike Pompeo.
FUCKING LIBERALS!!!
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RE: House REpublicans Illegally Holed up in SCIF Room
October 24, 2019 at 4:28 pm
Oh, this is hilarious.
Fox News analyst: Republicans are protesting their own impeachment inquiry rules
Quote:Judge Andrew Napolitano said Thursday that the Republicans are protesting their own rules for impeachment inquiries. Napolitano, an analyst for Fox News, said on “Fox & Friends” that Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) is following the impeachment rules that Republicans put in place with a GOP majority in 2015.
“I read the House rules, and as frustrating as it may be to have these hearings going on behind closed doors, the hearings for which Congressman Schiff is presiding, they are consistent with the rules,” Napolitano said. The judge noted that the “initial level of inquiry” in the impeachment questioning can be “done in secret,” like the witness interviews during President Nixon’s and President Clinton’s impeachment proceedings.
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