Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Snuffed

[Aegon]

I'd take a moderate in either party or a third party. I'm not greedy. I'm just tired of extremism.

My problem is: what counts as "extremism" in America, on the left, is hilarious. People still say Obama was a communist because of the Affordable Care Act. Give me a break. Like I said, this country's discourse skews conservative. The "radical" ideas that progressives tout are legitimately not radical, and we need to drill that into people's heads.

[onlinebiker]

I'd take a moderate in either party or a third party. I'm not greedy. I'm just tired of extremism.

My problem is: what counts as "extremism" in America, on the left, is hilarious. People still say Obama was a communist because of the Affordable Care Act. Give me a break. Like I said, this country's discourse skews conservative. The "radical" ideas that progressives tout are legitimately not radical, and we need to drill that into people's heads.

Keep your trepanation to yourself.

[Brian37]

I'd take a moderate in either party or a third party. I'm not greedy. I'm just tired of extremism.

My problem is: what counts as "extremism" in America, on the left, is hilarious. People still say Obama was a communist because of the Affordable Care Act. Give me a break. Like I said, this country's discourse skews conservative. The "radical" ideas that progressives tout are legitimately not radical, and we need to drill that into people's heads.

If the false slur aimed by the rich and the far right were true, then their favorite ally Israel would also have to be considered far left knowing, in reality, they have pesky useful things like universal health care, cheap to free higher education and liberal on abortion laws as well. 

The only problem I have with my fellow liberals/progressives, isn't that they are wrong on on social and economic issues, they are on the right side of history. The only problem I have with the left are two things.

1. As voters we gave up after Reagan successfully busted the air traffic control unions. That started the erosion of what post WW2 policies set up that lead to our middle class. 

2. Our politicians since Reagan, have tripped over themselves trying to prove we were not USSR or Cuban communists, which we never were and still not are.

But it is still up to voters on the liberal side, to stop seeing one politician as a super hero with a cape when it takes long term tactics to lead the narrative and control enough of a long term majority of the House, Senate, Presidency and SCOTUS. 

It isn't enough to be right on social issues, it still matters on getting enough power in all three branches for a effective long term period to make change.

Liberals are on the right side of history. Where we self defeat is that we don't unify like the GOP has since Reagan.

[The Grand Nudger]

I'd take a moderate in either party or a third party. I'm not greedy. I'm just tired of extremism.

Are there any moderate republicans?   

Tons, they're called "democrats" nowadays.

[EgoDeath]

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Are you talking to me, or a caricature you made up in your head? Crying about Trump every day? SJW bullshit? What are you on about? Do you read my posts? Lmao. You ought to start treating people like individuals with nuanced opinions, or you're guilty of the same crap "SJWs" are.

I'm talking about fiscal policy, first and foremost. Is Biden the shoe-in for the Democratic nominee anymore? No, those touting more progressive economic policy are beating him. Why?

The curve of history is liberal, right? Particularly with social issues, and now we're seeing a demand to transform the way we look at the economy. Don't see why it wouldn't keep going that way. The party of "let's go back to the old days" usually loses, then switches the time period of the "old days." Conservatives in 2035 might even support the ACA, who knows? They've already conceded on protecting pre-existing conditions.

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[Shell B]

I'd take a moderate in either party or a third party. I'm not greedy. I'm just tired of extremism.

My problem is: what counts as "extremism" in America, on the left, is hilarious. People still say Obama was a communist because of the Affordable Care Act. Give me a break. Like I said, this country's discourse skews conservative. The "radical" ideas that progressives tout are legitimately not radical, and we need to drill that into people's heads.

It depends on what progressives you're talking about. I've spoken to plenty of liberals who have insane ideas. To be fair, they aren't in positions of power, but there is extremism on the left, and it's ridiculous. I speak as someone who is definitely left of center. I know there are lunatics to my left.

My point here is that nothing can be accomplished so long as we have extremists like Trump or fake-asses like Hilary at the table. The Obama thing worked so well because he actual is quite moderate, easy to negotiate with, etc. So a few dickholes think he's a Communist. Those are the idiots talking. Overall, he did a good job.

When I say I'm sick of extremists, I don't mean past politics. I mean right now. Extremism in the political discourse in the U.S. has only become a problem for me in the past four years or so. Right now, I'd like a moderate to come in and navigate this bullshit.

[EgoDeath]

It depends on what progressives you're talking about. I've spoken to plenty of liberals who have insane ideas. To be fair, they aren't in positions of power, but there is extremism on the left, and it's ridiculous. I speak as someone who is definitely left of center. I know there are lunatics to my left.

My point here is that nothing can be accomplished so long as we have extremists like Trump or fake-asses like Hilary at the table. The Obama thing worked so well because he actual is quite moderate, easy to negotiate with, etc. So a few dickholes think he's a Communist. Those are the idiots talking. Overall, he did a good job.

When I say I'm sick of extremists, I don't mean past politics. I mean right now. Extremism in the political discourse in the U.S. has only become a problem for me in the past four years or so. Right now, I'd like a moderate to come in and navigate this bullshit.

Oh, you didn't know? Poor little girl - you clearly don't understand anything. Moderates won't do a damn thing! We need someone that's so fucking far left that we end up somewhere left of center. Shoot for the moon, land among the stars. You didn't know that? Idiot!

/sarcasm

[Shell B]

I'd like to wind up somewhere left of center in a social sense, to be fair. I'm just not willing to shoot myself in the foot to aim that far. A large portion of this country is pro-Trump. That means a large portion of this country will dig their heels in if pushed, so I'd rather just gently nudge and at least make progress.

I don't think we should compromise in some areas, to be clear. Abortion, death with dignity and problems with our voting system that keep minorities from voting are a few examples.

[Anomalocaris]

I'd like to wind up somewhere left of center in a social sense, to be fair. I'm just not willing to shoot myself in the foot to aim that far. A large portion of this country is pro-Trump. That means a large portion of this country will dig their heels in if pushed, so I'd rather just gently nudge and at least make progress.

I don't think we should compromise in some areas, to be clear. Abortion, death with dignity and problems with our voting system that keep minorities from voting are a few examples.

Gentle nudging works great in the clean politics of an intellectually honest and mature electorate with a respect for facts and that prioritizes the collective good.

We have 0.00000000 of those conditions met.


Here guile, shock, awe, deception,  fraud, appear to lowest common denominator works so well there is no room for anything else.


 


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[WinterHold]

Do people believe the propaganda of the Trump administration ?

Probably Abu-Bakr is retired along with Osama; both smoking a big cigar in an island protected by the CIA