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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:07 pm
Quote:But the Quran did mention that "Iron" was sent from space to earth:
Too bad it never said space
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:14 pm
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You know ancient people knew a lot about, as you call it, "iron from the sky" which they called meteorites. For instance in Tutankhamun's tomb was found a meteoric iron dagger.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm
(December 15, 2019 at 4:07 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:But the Quran did mention that "Iron" was sent from space to earth:
Too bad it never said space
The verse said:
Quote:And We sent down iron
God is in space, even this verse from the Quran says it:
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh
( 29 ) It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm
'Water comes from the sky' means that Arabs saw rain.
'Iron comes from the sky' means that Arabs knew about meteoric iron.
*yawn*
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:17 pm
(December 15, 2019 at 4:14 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: You know ancient people knew a lot about, as you call it, "iron from the sky" which they called meteorites. For instance in Tutankhamun's tomb was found a meteoric iron dagger.
But the OP is not about iron, it's about water.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm
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(December 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (December 15, 2019 at 4:07 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Too bad it never said space
The verse said:
Quote:And We sent down iron
God is in space, even this verse from the Quran says it:
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh
( 29 ) It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things. Sky ad Heavens refers to the sky not space
(December 15, 2019 at 4:17 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (December 15, 2019 at 4:14 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: You know ancient people knew a lot about, as you call it, "iron from the sky" which they called meteorites. For instance in Tutankhamun's tomb was found a meteoric iron dagger.
But the OP is not about iron, it's about water. Heavens refers to sky .....Rain
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:24 pm
(December 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'Water comes from the sky' means that Arabs saw rain.
'Iron comes from the sky' means that Arabs knew about meteoric iron.
*yawn*
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I said here why I have a problem with this interpretation:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-60144-p...pid1947380
The context and the literal words do not point to rain in OP's verses; but point to water falling from the sky.
The same is for Iron.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:28 pm
Quote:The context and the literal words do not point to rain in OP's verses; but point to water falling from the sky.
The same is for Iron.
Nope the context fits rain perfect
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:31 pm
(December 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (December 15, 2019 at 4:16 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The verse said:
God is in space, even this verse from the Quran says it: Sky ad Heavens refers to the sky not space
No. In the universe of the Quran; "sky" is a very big word and the world contains 7 of these skies:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-60144-p...pid1947519
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh
( 29 ) It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things.
Quote:Heavens refers to sky .....Rain
No.
Heavens = سماوات
Sky = سماء
Rain = المطر, الغيث
Heavens and sky are not related to rain linguistically
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Water came from space as NASA said
December 15, 2019 at 4:33 pm
(December 15, 2019 at 4:31 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: (December 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Sky ad Heavens refers to the sky not space
No. In the universe of the Quran; "sky" is a very big word and the world contains 7 of these skies:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-60144-p...pid1947519
Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh
( 29 ) It is He who created for you all of that which is on the earth. Then He directed Himself to the heaven, [His being above all creation], and made them seven heavens, and He is Knowing of all things.
Quote:Heavens refers to sky .....Rain
No.
Heavens = سماوات
Sky = سماء
Rain = المطر, الغيث
Heavens and sky are not related to rain linguistically No.
Heavens = سماوات
Sky = سماء
Rain = المطر, الغيث
Heavens and sky are not related to rain linguistically
Aside he point
"Change was inevitable"
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