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Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
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RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
Hey Kit! You recognise any of these guys?

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No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#12
RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
Truth be told, god will not take any action to rectify global warming. The warranty on Earth has expired. Since god is a colossal tightwad, god will not spring for the warranty extension.
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RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
(December 20, 2019 at 1:58 pm)mordant Wrote: The narrative I usually hear is that "god is in control of something as big as the weather, not puny humans, ergo, he will not permit things to get out of hand". This is of course abject nonsense on multiple levels. It consigns the scientific consensus to the role of a conspiracy theory -- dubious at best, pernicious at worst.

There are two major schools of thought in the evangelical community on this. One is the dominionist view which says god has given humans dominion over "lesser" animals and this implies we can do whatever we want with / to them by something akin, apparently, to the divine right of kings. The other view might be termed the stewardship view, which is that the implication of dominion is that we are responsible to be "good stewards" and "take care" of the rest of creation, which generally leads to a more humble and ecologically responsible approach to nature and our place in it.

You can guess which view tends to dominate discourse these days.

Obviously there are mixtures of these two views, such as saying that we need to be kind to animals and to nature, but shouldn't take it to "extremes" such as believing that humans can end life as we know it. This may actually be the most common view, and it is nearly as bad as the "do what we want" view because in practical effect it cedes the determination of what constitutes an "extreme" view to the corporate world. It leads to people who don't kick their dogs when they're in a bad mood, but who also suspect the climate crisis is much ado about nothing.

It is taboo to even indirectly elevate man over god as a potent and determinative actor, which is what they feel acknowledging the climate crisis as an existential threat does. I am not sure why it never occurs to them to suggest, as they do in so many OTHER areas, that god may simply allow us to suffer the natural consequences of our actions if we are not responsible stewards of the animal "kingdom". Maybe it is their exceptionalist view of humans that makes them uncomfortable acknowledging people as a subset of animals, as it implies to them a denial of the eternal soul that supposedly makes humans a thing unto themselves.

What a tangled web they do weave, when religious dogma they do conceive.

I have met some Christians who us the term "stewards of the earth" to describe themselves, and that is good. There's also Operation Noah and similar groups of nominally theistic climate activists, and that too is good. Most theists however, IMO, be like  Lalala when it comes to uncomfortable truths (such as that theism has zero evidence going for it and is flatly refuted by oh so much evidence, or that the Climate Crisis is our responsibility to tackle, for example) and they'll just do an easy as pie bit of mental gymnastics, call climate change "God's business" in one guise or another and hop cheerily onto the next trans-pacific flight to visit the relatives for a pleasant holiday they don't even need at all. I'm so supportive of the idea of Operation Noah I might even fake belief in order to help promote it...perhaps there is SOME hope after-all, with decent theists like them lot around.  Read
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RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
(December 21, 2019 at 5:40 am)no one Wrote: Truth be told, god will not take any action to rectify global warming. The warranty on Earth has expired. Since god is a colossal tightwad, god will not spring for the warranty extension.

Oh, please! Those "extended warranty" things are con. Arrgghh
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RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
Here's what God has said, man would destroy this earth if He doesn't cut time short to prevent it from happening. So no He is not going to rectify what man will do be it global warming, nuclear war or what ever it will be, God will cut time short to prevent man from destroying what He has already promised He will do. Sober up and consider this, man has gained enough power to destroy one little planet even if it's by not taking care of the earth, God on the other hand will as He promised destroy the entire creation and then create the new universe. Why not consider what God has already done so that humans can avoid living an eternal life condemned and instead live in an uncorruptible universe.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
"Whatever you pray for shall be granted." The hidden caveat there might be "Whatever a good and true Christian prays for..."

Given the above there has never been a good and true Christian who gave a fuck about disease, war, etc., or couldn't be arsed to give five minutes to asking God to change his Great Plan and eliminated that shit.
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RE: Are there any theists here who think God wants, or will take care of, Global Warming?
People can pray all they like for whatever they desire, it will do no good. What will do good is science, combatting the causes of global warming and finding alternative less or non-pollutant soutions to the problems we have at the minute.
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