Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!

[The Architect Of Fate]

Is the universe hostile to life ?

Yes. Whether you measure it by space, duration, or mass the proportion of the universe that is not utterly hostile to life is vanishingly small. Even in the miniscule portions of the universe that aren't immediately deadly, all life dies eventually. This leads to the inescapable conclusion that the "Designer" is either absent or criminally incompetent.

Gods existence is logically inferred. There is no alternative to God.

You say that as if you understand the alternatives.

the cause of the universe must have been God.

Kindly demonstrate causation that is not part of the universe.  

Being cannot come from non-being.

Prove it.

Since the universe had a beginning, a non-physical being must have existed beyond the universe, causing the universe into existence.

Hi! You appear to be trying to philosophy. Would you like some help with that?

Hell essentially do bad impression probability theory to insist their is no alternative to god .That the trend with apologists these days .Of course they do it wrong .But that's to be expected .

[Paleophyte]

Hell essentially do bad impression probability theory to insist their is no alternative to god .That the trend with apologists these days .Of course they do it wrong .But that's to be expected .

I can do much better problabliblity mathemagic that shows that god hates you. Assuming you believe in god it's the only reasonable conclusion.

[Peebothuhlu]

Can being come from non-being ?

Hello!

Sorry I'm late.

To the question 'Can being come from no-being?',

The answer is 'Yes'.



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Not at work.

[Deesse23]

The fact to be explained is why the universe is life-permitting rather than life-prohibiting. That is to say, scientists have been surprised to discover that in order for embodied, interactive life to evolve anywhere at all in the universe, the fundamental constants and quantities of nature have to be fine-tuned to an incomprehensible precision. Were even one of these constants or quantities to be slightly altered, the universe would not permit the existence of embodied, interactive life anywhere in the cosmos. These finely-tuned conditions are necessary conditions of life in a universe governed by the present laws of nature. it would be obtuse to think that the universe is not life-permitting because regions of the universe are not life-permitting! 

....says the puddle of water sitting comfortably in the small pond that seems to fit him exactly.

Pro tip: there may be gazillions of other universes in the cosmos, and they all have constants of nature that dont allow them to even form baryonic mass at all.
And now the kicker: And one of them may harbor life too, completely different to what you and i know, but life still.

Why the dishonesty to argue for what you dont believe, why the dishonesty to not argue for what you believe in, the christian god? Why arent you providing data that conclusively shows your god at work instead of making up reasons why its not something else? what are you doing in an atheist forum at all? Take your data and visit some scien...oh, you have already been laughed out of town by them? Too bad for you.

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Do you always respond to questions with deflections?
Show the data that points towards intelligence as a source for life, data other than founded in your lack of imagination or abundance of ignorance.
Do you have any original thoughts or do you often copy pasta walls of text to impress the (other) gullible?

Chance of intelligence to set up life: 
100% We KNOW by repeated experience that intelligence does elaborate blueprints and constructs complex factories and machines with specific purposes.

You fail again. Spectacularly. I said "other than founded in your lack of imagination or abundance of ignorance"  

Life (we) creates machines. But life (we) has not managed yet to create life. Life self replicating is not life creating life. Nice try at equivocation though.
Otoh we have guiding forces of nature that may have created life some billions of years ago, as the paleontologic data availiable suggests.

Chance of unguided random natural events doing it:

Unguided natural events? Didnt you just argue that the guiding forces of nature have to be set up so precisely as to allow the formation of life? That without exactly those forces life wouldnt be possible? What is random about a body of great mass always attractig more mass and lack of mass not attracting any mass? Does Mass clump up randomly or not?  

Chance of random chemical reactions...

Chemical reactions, like gravity, are not random. They are guided by the forces of nature. Fuel does not *randomly* ignite in the combustion chambers of the engine of your car (at least i hope so, for your sake!. Special conditions have to be met.

We are not in a casino, this is nature, dude.

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1.No your re just framing the question in a way that suits your apologist script without actually addressing the point .Then repeating the same fallacies again.Then just linking some apologist websites as if they have answered he question any better then you have (which is not at all)

In other words: preaching

[Mister Agenda]

as if creation was not a possible option... LOL

At one point there was no life on earth. Therefore, if it didn't come from somewhere else, the only other possibility is that it began on earth, originating from something that was not alive in the biological sense. That is abiogenesis. If it was created, and the creator was biological, it came from somewhere else. If it was created and the creator was not biological itself (a spirit or somesuch), the creation of the first living thing on earth was an act of abiogenesis.

The available options are life came from somewhere else, scientific abiogenesis, and unscientific abiogenesis. If you eliminate abiogenesis altogether, the only option is that life came from somewhere else, and that just kicks the question of how that life started down the alley.

[no one]

Otangelo typing the big words and wiping its ass without mommy's help? Impossible!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

DNA precursors have been found in comets. Comets and asteroids delivered most of the water on Earth. The Earth was one large chem lab for hundreds of thousands of years. Like the typing monkeys life was inevitable.